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02-10-2008, 09:18 PM
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#1 | | Prospect
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Credits: 1,624,747 | Wow...we are dead last in football recruiting | |
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02-10-2008, 09:20 PM
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#2 | | Rookie
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 541
Credits: 878,072 | Re: Wow...we are dead last in football recruiting | |
Recruiting stars don't win championships.
Gridiron stars do.
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02-10-2008, 09:21 PM
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#3 | | Bench Warmer
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 259
Credits: 321,051 | Re: Wow...we are dead last in football recruiting | |
Ranking individual players means as much to me as writing a movie review based upon it's actors/actresses. We all know it's about more than that. You want to rate our class? Wait two or three years.
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02-10-2008, 09:26 PM
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#4 | | All-Star
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Menlo, Iowa
Posts: 1,928
Credits: 1,236,396 Year: 1999 Degree: Agronomy NFL: Bears MLB: Twins | Re: Wow...we are dead last in football recruiting | |
Recruiting rankings dont win games. Weight coaches, coaches developing players, game plans, and player development does.
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I'm not an expert on sports, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night | |
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02-10-2008, 09:30 PM
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#5 | | Starter
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 962
Credits: 1,125,719 | Re: Wow...we are dead last in football recruiting | |
Originally Posted by kingcy  Recruiting rankings dont win games. Weight coaches, coaches developing players, game plans, and player development does.
DING! I will take a bunch of hard working 2 stars over some 5 star me only type guys that only care about their stats and moving to the NFL. If ISU can get team players and hard workers that are 4-5 stars then I will be extremely pleased.
I think in the next 2-3 seasons we are going to see some great things just because of ISU's strength and conditioning program.
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02-10-2008, 09:32 PM
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#6 | | Hall-Of-Famer
Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Des Moines
Posts: 3,737
Credits: 273,114 | Re: Wow...we are dead last in football recruiting | |
We've been dead last or near dead last ever since they started ranking recruits. Just wait a few years, and then judge.
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The cold, arctic winds have descended upon Ames, Iowa. With winter's arrival, one season ends...
.... so that another can begin.
From within the concrete walls of Hilton Coliseum, a ceremony takes place where
a synergy between its players, fans, and coaches inspires greatness... success...
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02-10-2008, 09:36 PM
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#7 | | All-Star
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,881
Credits: 1,035,488 Year: 2001 Degree: MIS NFL: Vikings NBA: Bulls MLB: Twins | Re: Wow...we are dead last in football recruiting | |
Bob Sanders, Dallas Clark, Gallery, Keading, Considine etc....Those guys were a bunch of average joes and they seem to be doing well now. We will be fine. Just think about this. We won 4 games 2 years ago and 3 games last year. Lets give him time to win a few game and then see what happens. I am pretty happy with this class.
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02-10-2008, 09:37 PM
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#8 | | Starter
Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ames
Posts: 629
Credits: 914,939 Year: 2007 Degree: Civil Engineering MLB: Cardinals | Re: Wow...we are dead last in football recruiting | |
It's amazing how your recruit rankings will go up once you've had a few good seasons. I think this has more to do with national respect than it does for the actual caliber of players you get. I wonder how high Kansas' class would've been ranked had they not done as well as they did last year.
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02-10-2008, 09:42 PM
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#9 | | Pro
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,334
Credits: 668,845 | Re: Wow...we are dead last in football recruiting | |
Below is how our classes have ranked nationally since 2002. I get the impression that a lot of the higher rated guys in some of these classes either didn't make it to campus or didn't pan out. Although I'm somewhat disappointed in the strength of this class as compared to the rest of the Big XII, it appears to be similar to pre-Chizik classes. If our team is going to improve it will be because of superior coaching of the kids we get, not due to getting superior athletes.
2008 - 62
2007 - 60
2006 - 63
2005 - 58
2004 - 42
2003 - 46
2002 - 31
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"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."—Margaret Mead
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02-10-2008, 10:18 PM
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#10 | | Bench Warmer
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Waukee
Posts: 304
Credits: 428,355 | Re: Wow...we are dead last in football recruiting | |
Originally Posted by freerockhere Look at the bright side - we had more 3 star recruits than Oklahoma!
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02-10-2008, 10:19 PM
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#11 | | All-Star
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,109
Credits: 300,467 | Re: Wow...we are dead last in football recruiting | |
Dienhart was on KXNO the other evening and said that if you ever go back and look at a top 100 of players coming out 5 years ago you will only recognize a small percentage of them. Just go back and look at our 2002 recruiting class. There was 5 four star recruits and I believe the only two that even made an impact were Austin Flynn and Stevie Hicks (if that?) Stars don't mean crap!
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And as crummy as this one felt, Cyclone fans, it could be a lot worse. You could be a Hawkeye. - Sean Keeler (imagine that, actually quoting Keeler!)
Matt (00 Alumn)
Waukee, Iowa
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02-10-2008, 10:23 PM
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#12 | | All-Star
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,753
Credits: 929,361 | Re: Wow...we are dead last in football recruiting | |
You can't evaluate a class before the ball is snapped.
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02-10-2008, 10:24 PM
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#13 | | Pro
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cedar Falls, IA
Posts: 2,207
Credits: 2,787 NFL: Cowboys NBA: Mavericks MLB: Cardinals | Re: Wow...we are dead last in football recruiting | |
Originally Posted by HandSanitizer Bob Sanders, Dallas Clark, Gallery, Keading, Considine etc.... wrong msg board. i think you MEANT Seneca Wallace, Ellis Hobbs, Tim Dobbins, Sage Rosenfels, Reggie Hayward, James Reed, etc.
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02-10-2008, 10:29 PM
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#14 | | Starter
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 766
Credits: 386,403 Year: 1980 Degree: Chemistry & Zoology | Re: Wow...we are dead last in football recruiting | |
Sorry folks, I'm of the opinion that if Iowa State never has the comparable talent, then we will consistently (not a one-game fluke) lose to the the LSU's and USC's.
It's been that way for my 32-years as a 'Clone.
I would love to see the outcome when ISU signs the most 4/5 star recruits and has the top ranked recruiting class in the nation..... Even with Donnie Duncan as HC.
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02-10-2008, 10:30 PM
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#15 | | Walk On
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 138
Credits: 319,640 | Re: Wow...we are dead last in football recruiting | |
I am sure Notre Dame has had a top ten recruiting class each of the last 5 years and look how they performed on the field last year. They also have not won a bowl game since the 1988 season. Several of our 3 star players would be listed as a 4 star player at a named school. Plus we got the Hamer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am excited about this class, especially the speed.
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