Section 12 - 30 years at $100

[twojman]

Originally Posted by ajk4st8

Dropping tickets because you can't fork up only 250 bucks.... who cares...

You are one of the very few.

Who are you people that make jabs like this? Did mommy and daddy pay for everything for you? Do you have a family to provide for?

$250 to me pays for a week of daycare for my soon to be two children. Don't forget about diapers, formula, clothes, books and toys. Add that with the fact that average salary increases for the year in my company were 3.5% while inflation is up 8% - 10%, something has to give.

[LindenCy]

I have to say I don't like the tone of some of the posts. Not everyone can afford to pay more. Some can. I don't think the way to go about it is to insinuate someone is "cheap."

I don't know if I would call Cyclone football "cheap entertainment" anymore. If you bring a family of 4, you are looking at decent coin. I love ISU and don't have kids yet, so it is easier for me, but I don't know that everyone could make it work.

Also, I'd agree that we need to get more donations from those not donating, if possible. I am not saying that Pollard is doing anything wrong with raising donation levels, but I don't think it is right to mock long time fans who have been here in rough times.

[vanillathrilla]

Originally Posted by ajk4st8

"Dropping tickets because you can't fork up only 250 bucks.... who cares...

You are one of the very few."



Yeah, who cares about fans that have been loyal and around for all the bad years, but are now priced out.

[ajk4st8]

Originally Posted by twojman

Who are you people that make jabs like this? Did mommy and daddy pay for everything for you? Do you have a family to provide for?

$250 to me pays for a week of daycare for my soon to be two children. Don't forget about diapers, formula, clothes, books and toys. Add that with the fact that average salary increases for the year in my company were 3.5% while inflation is up 8% - 10%, something has to give.

So while inflation is up we should not try to increase the costs to enjoy ISU sports? How will they operate?

I guess I just dont understand why people think they should have the right to something they arent willing to pay for. I have no problem with people not being able to up their donation.

[Cyclone62]

Originally Posted by cyclone79

No, Jamie has decided if I can give $250; I should give $500.
I just can't help at that level. I wished he had gone after the 70,000 alumni that give nothing.

I can understand your frustration with keeping the same seats for twice the money, but couldn't you help by donating the same and getting other seats? I'm graduating in a month, so I guess I see it as I'm helping the program no matter how much/little it really may be.

[ajk4st8]

Originally Posted by vanillathrilla

Originally Posted by ajk4st8

"Dropping tickets because you can't fork up only 250 bucks.... who cares...

You are one of the very few."



Yeah, who cares about fans that have been loyal and around for all the bad years, but are now priced out.

Moving over 1 section is not being priced out. There are season ticket packages in JTS for $99 bucks. So if you want to be picky about where you sit.. then fork up the money. If you can't enjoy it from a SLIGHTLY worse seat.

[ColoradoClone]

I don't think any fan would honestly say a bigger budget would not be a better thing. The problem is, you have to give the higher donors a reason to donate. In this case, it's better seats. I doubt you see these sections empty, which means there are people out there who are willing to pay the premium. The nice thing about ISU is that you're still able to purchase season tickets without donating anything. On top of that, you can buy season tickets for under $200. That's insane.

Some peoples feelings get hurt, or they feel they've been wronged, but if there are others willing to pay more for those seats, I think it's money you have to go after. That $250 you mention for 2 children is a big difference. In my case, $250 doesn't even cover 1 week of daycare for my 1 child, let alone 2 so I understand money is tight. On top of that, if I want to go to a game I have to pay over $3/gallon to drive 700 miles, or over $300/person for plane tickets. I don't complain about it though, I just realize that it's important enough to me to spend the money on while not having other luxury's.

Truth is if you could afford last years tickets with the $250 donation, you can find a way to get tickets this year too. They may not be the same seats you've had, and I agree it's too bad, but you don't have to give up all together if it's important to you. If it's not, then it's not.

[kingcy]

Originally Posted by twojman

I forgot, ISU has not had any large donations. What is the name of that practice facility next to JTS? Gosh, I think it won the top indoor facility in the country a couple of years ago.

How many times has ISU played Oklahoma in the last 20 years, 15? ISU is 0 fer vs. OU. Boise St. has played OU 1 in that time and is 1-0 against them. This is all about players and coaches. Yes each school needs cash but I think everyone gets way too caught up in the money excuse as it has become an accepted excuse across the country. Each coach will say they do not have enough money for their program. They can always use more 52" tv's for watching tape and to have in the weight rooms. If players do not like/respect the coaches you will have what is happening in Iowa City. BTW, doesn't EIU have the third highest athletic budget in the big 10?

EIU didnt have much of a problem raising $85 mill to redo KS. I dont remember the amount KSU got from the one person but I think it was in the $20 mill range. Yes ISU has had their share of donations but other schools get more. You have to be able to attract players and coaches. When Mac came to Ames the team practiced in what looked like a ditch east of the staduim and 1/2 mile away in the some rough field, now that is attractive to prospects. Heck it was well into Macs tenure that they got the practice field and he as about done when they got the indoor building. Iowa has wore their 1st indoor facality out. Currently the BB team practices all over campus in old gyms, it is possable they may practice in a differnt place each day of the week, now thats handy for them. That looks good to prospects when they can to go else where and have everything in one place.

I agree it is about players and coaches but you have to get those people to campus and practicing in parking lots isnt very attractive.

I understand some cannot afford it or they dont want to pay it and I understand and accept that. It does suck for a 30 yr ticketholder to get pushed out and that shouldnt happen, but there are other options. Heck I may get forced out of my seat at some point.

[ajk4st8]

Originally Posted by ColoradoClone

I don't think any fan would honestly say a bigger budget would not be a better thing. The problem is, you have to give the higher donors a reason to donate. In this case, it's better seats. I doubt you see these sections empty, which means there are people out there who are willing to pay the premium. The nice thing about ISU is that you're still able to purchase season tickets without donating anything. On top of that, you can buy season tickets for under $200. That's insane.

Some peoples feelings get hurt, or they feel they've been wronged, but if there are others willing to pay more for those seats, I think it's money you have to go after. That $250 you mention for 2 children is a big difference. In my case, $250 doesn't even cover 1 week of daycare for my 1 child, let alone 2 so I understand money is tight. On top of that, if I want to go to a game I have to pay over $3/gallon to drive 700 miles, or over $300/person for plane tickets. I don't complain about it though, I just realize that it's important enough to me to spend the money on while not having other luxury's.

Truth is if you could afford last years tickets with the $250 donation, you can find a way to get tickets this year too. They may not be the same seats you've had, and I agree it's too bad, but you don't have to give up all together if it's important to you. If it's not, then it's not.

Well said. Im not that old, but have had the same Varsity club seats the past few years. I enjoy the people around me, so even though I could move closer to the 50 its fun near the end. I wish people wouldn't be so afraid of moving. Not a bad seat in the house.

[Bobber]

Originally Posted by ajk4st8

Im not that old,

That I can tell by your brash comments.

This is about supply and demand. Some long time ticket holders are going to leave. Some new ones will come in. JP will continue to push the envelope until demand drops off. I'm not sure if he's there yet, but he's getting closer.

Cyclone79, we'll miss you. Hope you come back.

[ajk4st8]

Originally Posted by Bobber

That I can tell by your brash comments.

This is about supply and demand. Some long time ticket holders are going to leave. Some new ones will come in. JP will continue to push the envelope until demand drops off. I'm not sure if he's there yet, but he's getting closer.

Cylone79, we'll miss you. Hope you come back.

Sorry if the comments offended anyone. It really came out all wrong. I edited right away. You guys should know Im not all about being an a** on here.

[LindenCy]

Hey, I agree you can't beat the lower priced season ticket packages (especially in basketball!), but let's try to keep it civil. We're all Cyclones.

[ColoradoClone]

Originally Posted by Bobber

That I can tell by your brash comments.

This is about supply and demand. Some long time ticket holders are going to leave. Some new ones will come in. JP will continue to push the envelope until demand drops off. I'm not sure if he's there yet, but he's getting closer.

Cylone79, we'll miss you. Hope you come back.

Well said and good points. It is a supply/demand issue and I can't think of anyone that isn't saddened that the reality of that leaves some of the programs long term supporters unable to attend games anymore. That's a shame. I echo the wishes that they come back when they're able.

I hope that some that can still support the program realize that following the same team for more than 30 years is more special than supporting them in the same seat. While it hurts to move, I hope they continue their years of support if all it takes is moving to a new seat.

[LindenCy]

Originally Posted by ajk4st8

Sorry if the comments offended anyone. It really came out all wrong. I edited right away. You guys should know Im not all about being an a** on here.

You aren't? I can tell it probably came off harsher than you meant it. We all would like to see more money in the school's coffers for our team. This is something I LOVE about this board. Even when there are disagreements and hurt feelings, it seems like people make it right in the end and we all understand each other. Can't you feel the Cyclone love?

[cstrunk]

Some of you guys sounded like real ***** in your responses to this unfortunate situation. How you do think that helps this fan make the decision to buy tickets to see a sporting event when fellow fans act like.... Hawkeyes?

$250 may not be a lot of money to some people. But to others it is.