ISU ushers in new era at receiver - Ames Trib Article

[ISUFan22]

Originally Posted by BryceC

Well, he had a 46 yard reception last year so it had to happen at some point. And yes, he was missed several times.

I watched a lot of games last year and I recall a lot more times when Hamilton made receptions over the middle than Blythe.

If all you're looking at is the numbers, then Bret Meyer is the best QB in our history, and it's a complete no brainer.

Quoted for truth.

[Aclone]

Originally Posted by snowcraig2.0

Did you watch Hamilton play last year? This seems like a very uninformed opinion. Hamilton has size, great hands, and is a great blocker. He will be our featured receiver, which will be a very good thing for us.

Did you watch Hamilton play last year? This seems like a very uninformed opinion. Hamilton made catches underneath, using his size to shield defenders from the ball, then turned and plowed through smaller guys upfield. He certainly doesn't have the speed to run past the corners, so if he's the featured receiver, that means that our offense isn't going downfield much at all. He has great size, excellent hands, and plays with a great deal of heart--but he doesn't have the speed needed from a #1 receiver.

[cybsball20]

Wow, for some reason I started this thread thinking we were talking Justin Hamilton as a receiver in football. I seriously thought everyone was going crazy!

M. Hamilton > T. Blythe

[ISUFan22]

Originally Posted by Clones85'

Is that all you have in your defense of Hamilton? How is he a better all around WR?

Go watch the OU and KSU games - 2 games we played our best football mind you.

Hamilton was big in both of those. And in both, he had key catches over the middle when he got jacked as soon as the ball got to him and made some blocks for other players.

I'm not going to call Todd lazy, but when I watched him play, I could tell pretty quickly on a number of plays when he was and wasn't one of the primary receivers. I have yet to be able to see that in Hamilton.

Again, it's all in the attitude. I doubt I'd be saying any of these things had Todd had the fortune of playing his early college years (the most impressionable) under a staff with high expectations and no tolerance for poor route running and not blocking down field.

[Clones85']

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

Quoted for truth.

I will ask the question again. How is Hamilton a better all around WR than Todd Blythe?

And to compare WR's stats to a QB's stats is apples to oranges. A QB starts off every play w/ the ball in his hands. He is going to throw the ball 30 times a game regardless of how he is doing. This is not true for a WR. You have to get open, you have to make the catches. Sure a QB has to pass the ball but when Meyer has hundreds of more passes than the second place guy, he is going to break some records. Can't say the same for WR.

[Aclone]

Originally Posted by cybsball20

M. Hamilton > T. Blythe

Huh. You guys are nuts.

If Hamilton has better stats than Blythe over the next two seasons, it's because of his quarterback having a better offensive line, giving him more time to pass. Not to mention a better running game as a diversion.

Seriously, why diss Blythe, anyway?

[Clones85']

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

Go watch the OU and KSU games - 2 games we played our best football mind you.

Hamilton was big in both of those. And in both, he had key catches over the middle when he got jacked as soon as the ball got to him and made some blocks for other players.

I'm not going to call Todd lazy, but when I watched him play, I could tell pretty quickly on a number of plays when he was and wasn't one of the primary receivers. I have yet to be able to see that in Hamilton.

Again, it's all in the attitude. I doubt I'd be saying any of these things had Todd had the fortune of playing his early college years (the most impressionable) under a staff with high expectations and no tolerance for poor route running and not blocking down field.

Well Mr. Football Knowledge, you take 2 games, and I will take 4 years. If you want to take 2 games Diante Garrett had a better year than Rahshon Clark in basketball.

All you can tell me is that you think Todd doesn't give it his all, and that Hamilton does. Fair enough but I have a quick question for you.....who is the best WR in football? Randy Moss? Haven't people said for years that he doesn't give it his all every play? But hey you take Keyshawn Johnson b/c he plays hard and blocks.

[snowcraig2.0]

Originally Posted by Aclone

Did you watch Hamilton play last year? This seems like a very uninformed opinion. Hamilton made catches underneath, using his size to shield defenders from the ball, then turned and plowed through smaller guys upfield. He certainly doesn't have the speed to run past the corners, so if he's the featured receiver, that means that our offense isn't going downfield much at all. He has great size, excellent hands, and plays with a great deal of heart--but he doesn't have the speed needed from a #1 receiver.

Yeah, I watched every play of every game last year. Perhaps you forgot the deep sideline ball he caught against KSU from Arnaud? He seemed to get open deep on that play fairly easily.

I remember Mike Williams being the number 1 WR at USC a few years back. He ran something like a 4.8 40, yet was a pretty good #1 receiver. Speed is only one of many qualities to judge a receiver by.

Besides all that, when watching Hamilton play he seems to have good football speed in pads, regardless of what his 40 time is in shorts.

[ISUFan22]

I'm not dissing Blythe. I'm reminding people that he's not perfect and in each of his flaws, Hamilton is better in those categories.

If I needed a hail mary pass to win a game - I'd go with Todd, easily. I wouldn't feel worried about needing to use Hamilton in that role.

If I needed to start a game and win it, or march down the field in moderate chunks, run the ball to the outside and get help blocking - Hamilton would be my go-to guy. I would feel a bit weary about depending on Todd in that role.

[cybsball20]

Originally Posted by Aclone

Huh. You guys are nuts.

If Hamilton has better stats than Blythe over the next two seasons, it's because of his quarterback having a better offensive line, giving him more time to pass. Not to mention a better running game as a diversion.

Seriously, why diss Blythe, anyway?

In the words of Jay Bilas, just because I like the way one player plays is no slight to another. Hamilton plows through the secondary after catches instead of sliding and avoiding contact. Hamilton is a better blocker. The only reason he didn't get more passes is the Blythe-Meyer connection over the last 4 years.

[Clones85']

Originally Posted by Aclone

Huh. You guys are nuts.

If Hamilton has better stats than Blythe over the next two seasons, it's because of his quarterback having a better offensive line, giving him more time to pass. Not to mention a better running game as a diversion.

Seriously, why diss Blythe, anyway?

B/C his QB got worse and he didn't catch 9 TD's last year like he did his freshman and sophomore year. That is the only way I can figure out how somebody with 31 career TD's can be considered a worse player than somebody with 1 career TD by a fan base. Most expected him to catch a TD every game and when he didn't it was b/c he wasn't trying hard enough

[snowcraig2.0]

Originally Posted by Clones85'

Well Mr. Football Knowledge, you take 2 games, and I will take 4 years. If you want to take 2 games Diante Garrett had a better year than Rahshon Clark in basketball.

All you can tell me is that you think Todd doesn't give it his all, and that Hamilton does. Fair enough but I have a quick question for you.....who is the best WR in football? Randy Moss? Haven't people said for years that he doesn't give it his all every play? But hey you take Keyshawn Johnson b/c he plays hard and blocks.

Thanks for making my point. If Randy Moss gave the kind of effort we are talking about do you know what you would have? Jerry Rice. Moss is a great player, but he is not all he could be, similar to Blythe at ISU.

[cycloneryan]

More than any other position, I am really looking forward to watching the WR's this year, I think they are going to shock some people.

[cybsball20]

Without charting every play I am willing to bet that Hamilton was left open more than any other player on the team.

[clonez]

If you don't think Hamilton has the big play ability go back and watch the KU game from last year. He burned Talib on a triple move and would have had a touchdown if it wasn't underthrown.