CycloneFanatic

Go Back   CycloneFanatic > Iowa State > Football
Forgot Password? | Sign Up!
Register Members Mark Forums Read

Notices

Please help support CF, Donate Today!

» Site Navigation
Home
08-09 Football
08-09 MBB
08-09 WBB
08-09 Wrestling
Site Rules
Photo Gallery
Social Groups
CyBookie
CF Top Stats

Donate!
CF Store

Forum Index
» Forum Menu
Forum Index
Front-Page News
Site News
Feedback/Support
Introductions
CF Tourney Pools
Betting Board
Press Releases
ISU General
Campus Life
ISU MBB
ISU WBB
ISU Football
ISU Wrestling
Big XII
In-State Rivals
General College
Pro Sports
Off Topic
Politics/Religion
Gaming & Groups
Ticket Exchange
CF Archive
Restricted Forums
Advertise Here


Post New Thread  Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-24-2008, 05:12 PM   #61
All-Star
 
kg-cyclone's Avatar
 
Re: Guess what made the Board of Regents' Agenda?

Originally Posted by trueclone2 View Post
WHAT? I don't know what is wrong with the current practice facility. It is rather nice IMO. Have you seen it?

Far too long this was a BB first school. We have a long ways to go still in football. Bring on the expansion of the S. end zone.
Just curious as to where the practice facility is...to my knowledge we don't have one.
kg-cyclone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2008, 05:14 PM   #62
Addict
 
cybsball20's Avatar
 
Re: Guess what made the Board of Regents' Agenda?

Originally Posted by kg-cyclone View Post
Just curious as to where the practice facility is...to my knowledge we don't have one.
I was wondering this too...

cybsball20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2008, 05:15 PM   #63
All-Star
 
bmuff's Avatar
 
Re: Guess what made the Board of Regents' Agenda?

I think that people are discounting what this would do for the FB program. Yeah, it will add seating, but there are additional things. It makes for a more big-time feel. Why does iowa have good attendance through November while our attendance falls off? It's not because they have been a much better FB team lately. It's because FB is an event there. At ISU, FB is more like a chance to drink outside. When it gets cold out, the desire to drink in the parking lot is diminished. I think that enclosing that end zone and adding a second level makes the stadium a more intimate atmosphere. That affects fan enthusiasm, player enthusiasm and definitely recruiting. It also blocks some of the wind (although that usually comes from the north) making gameday better for fans.

Yeah, I wish that BB had a practice facility. But bottom line is that the donor (whoever it is) made the call.

Do or do not, there is no try .....Yoda
bmuff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2008, 05:20 PM   #64
Bench Warmer
Donor 
 
majorcyfan's Avatar
 
Re: Guess what made the Board of Regents' Agenda?

Originally Posted by kg-cyclone View Post
Just curious as to where the practice facility is...to my knowledge we don't have one.
Isn't the men's BB practice facility the old and I think renovated some, STATE GYM ? THINK SO.

U of OWA ... HOME OF THE FERENZ "LOW RENT" GRADUATES OF THE SCHOOL OF MORAL TURPITUDE ....THE LEADING UNIVERSITY of SELECTIVE ETHICS......PROUD TO BE ETHICS-FREE, INTEGRITY-FREE .
NO INTEGRITY, NO "I" IN OWA
CAN YOU TELL I LOVE THE U OF OWA
WHERE IS WRITTEN THAT ISU FANS SHOULD LOVE THE EASTERN IOWA BUMS, DRUNKS AND THUGS PARTY CENTER?
majorcyfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2008, 05:20 PM   #65
All-Star
 
cyclonez7's Avatar
 
Re: Guess what made the Board of Regents' Agenda?

Originally Posted by bmuff View Post
I think that people are discounting what this would do for the FB program. Yeah, it will add seating, but there are additional things. It makes for a more big-time feel. Why does iowa have good attendance through November while our attendance falls off? It's not because they have been a much better FB team lately. It's because FB is an event there. At ISU, FB is more like a chance to drink outside. When it gets cold out, the desire to drink in the parking lot is diminished. I think that enclosing that end zone and adding a second level makes the stadium a more intimate atmosphere. That affects fan enthusiasm, player enthusiasm and definitely recruiting. It also blocks some of the wind (although that usually comes from the north) making gameday better for fans.

Yeah, I wish that BB had a practice facility. But bottom line is that the donor (whoever it is) made the call.
Don't forget how loud it will be once the upper deck is added. It should trap more sound and get the Trice rockin'.

Thunder & Lightning
Bo Williams & A-Rob '09

Phil. 4:13
cyclonez7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2008, 05:22 PM   #66
All-Star
Donor 
 
Al_4_State's Avatar
 
Re: Guess what made the Board of Regents' Agenda?

If tickets are reasonable, I think we could fill, or come close to doing so in a lot of games. I think additional capacity would allow some cheap seats, and I know alot of people who would come to more games if they could afford it. Bottomline is I love Cyclone football, and the way JP keeps raising ticket prices, I'm worried about whether or not I will be able to afford them the next couple of years, as I'm going to grad school (not at ISU). Anything that could promote cheaper seats gets my backing, and I KNOW I'm not the only die-hard worried about this...



RIP #27 and #2

I'll order up another shot of sin, I'm running twice as hard into the wind, I'll hitch a ride when the next one comes in, fell off the wagon again...
Al_4_State is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2008, 05:22 PM   #67
Pro
 
SouthernHawk's Avatar
 
Re: Guess what made the Board of Regents' Agenda?

Originally Posted by majorcyfan View Post
Isn't the men's BB practice facility the old and I think renovated some, STATE GYM ? THINK SO.
You yell a lot, don't you.

ISU Student - Iowa fan. Best of both worlds.
SouthernHawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2008, 05:22 PM   #68
Recruit
 
No More Grass Seating

Originally Posted by ajk4st8 View Post
Take people off the grass EVERYWHERE. No more grass seating. Make people sit in the stands.
This is a great idea. All tickets should be stadium seats. By eliminating the north hillsides we gain another 5000 butts in the stadium.

....some guy hit my fender and I said "be fruitful and multiply" but not in those words
NWIAclone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2008, 05:24 PM   #69
All-Star
 
Bader's Avatar
 
Re: Guess what made the Board of Regents' Agenda?

Originally Posted by SouthernHawk View Post
You yell a lot, don't you.

Look at his avatar SH, major has been sittin on that jon for quite a while now, I'd be pretty angry too if a BM took me that long.

"I just back into town and I hear all this stuff, and Buster Olney is making my team up now and [Genske] wants to tell me who is going to pitch here. No one is going to tell us who to put on our team and no one on ESPN is going to tell us who should pitch for my team. " -Gardy
Bader is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2008, 05:26 PM   #70
Pro
 
SouthernHawk's Avatar
 
Re: Guess what made the Board of Regents' Agenda?

Originally Posted by Bader View Post
Look at his avatar SH, major has been sittin on that jon for quite a while now, I'd be pretty angry too if a BM took me that long.
Hmm, I see. Good point.

Anyways, carry on with the convo :)

I'd just like to add - I think it would be kinda cool to add an upper deck..... eventually. Approach sellout status for a few straight years, and then do it.

ISU Student - Iowa fan. Best of both worlds.
SouthernHawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2008, 05:26 PM   #71
All-Star
 
kg-cyclone's Avatar
 
Re: Guess what made the Board of Regents' Agenda?

Originally Posted by majorcyfan View Post
Isn't the men's BB practice facility the old and I think renovated some, STATE GYM ? THINK SO.

Yeah, or maybe its Forker; where we hold the Elite Camp for all the recruits in the middle of the summer with no AC...or maybe it's the lied rec with no wood floors....wait, wait, maybe it's Beyer that never have any other activities going on.

Okay, sorry had to get that off my chest.

Last edited by kg-cyclone; 04-24-2008 at 06:14 PM.
kg-cyclone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2008, 05:28 PM   #72
Addict
 
cybsball20's Avatar
 
Re: Guess what made the Board of Regents' Agenda?

Originally Posted by kg-cyclone View Post
Yeah, or maybe its Forker; where we hold the Elite Camp for all the recruits in the middle of the summer with no AC...or maybe it's the lied rec with no wood floors....wait, wait, maybe it's Beyer that doesn't ever have any other activities going on.

Okay, sorry had to get that off my chest.
and do ANY of those facilities have a FULL SIZED court? Locker rooms? Team room? video room? Seeing the locker rooms at Hilton the other night at Cy's house of trivia about made me sick, they are TINY!

cybsball20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2008, 05:49 PM   #73
All-Star
 
superfan's Avatar
 
Re: Guess what made the Board of Regents' Agenda?

Yes, I believe the basketball "practice facility" is State Gym.

However, I'd be willing to venture a guess that the passing of the rec renovation had something to do with the priority order, because...


Look what ELSE made the agenda:

1. Permission to proceed with project planning for Jack Trice Stadium Improvements – 2006 –
Phase 2, the Poultry Farm – Layer Research Facility, and Recreation Facilities
Expansion and Renovation, all major capital projects as defined by Board policy. [...]

The Recreation Facilities Expansion and Renovation project would upgrade the University’s
recreation facilities to expand student recreation offerings in response to student demand. The
proposed project would include construction of an addition to State Gym, the renovation of existing
space in State Gym and Beyer Hall, and the installation of air conditioning in the Lied Recreation
Center. Campus maps indicating the location of the three facilities, and the proposed addition to
State Gym, are included as Attachments D and E). The estimated project cost of $50 million to
$55 million would be funded by bonds, the debt service of which would be paid by student fee
revenue.
The development of improved recreation facilities at Iowa State University is supported by a
number of national and local studies, as well as ISU student endorsements. National student
recreation studies have determined the following:
• The availability of intramural and recreational sports is one of the primary factors in a student’s
choice of a university.
• Student participation in recreational sports has been found to have a positive correlation with
student quality of life, retention rates, and overall college satisfaction and success.
• The vitality of campus life is reinforced by the provision of high quality facilities that include
programs in fitness, wellness, nutrition, aerobics, weight training, intramural sports, sport
clubs, outdoor recreation, experiential learning, and many other related activities.
• Recreation facilities should be large enough to support regular participation by the majority of
the student body.
BOARD OF REGENTS AGENDA ITEM 22
STATE OF IOWA PAGE 3
A 2007 Iowa State University recreation facility feasibility study found that while ISU has aboveaverage
student recreation participation levels, it has below-average dedicated indoor recreation
space per student (8.6 square feet compared to the standard of 10 to 13 square feet). The
construction of the proposed State Gym addition, currently estimated at 92,320 square feet, would
increase the University’s average indoor recreation space to 12.2 square feet per student.
An ISU student needs assessment survey, with more than 5,400 respondents, indicated that more
than 90 percent of the respondents use the Lied Recreation Center on a weekly basis. In addition,
49 percent of the respondents indicated that the University should make the development of new
or improved campus recreation facilities a high or very high priority; 39 percent of the respondents
indicated a medium priority for the improvements. Finally, 54 percent of the survey respondents
indicated that the west side of campus, in the vicinity of Beyer Hall and State Gym, would be the
preferred location for improved recreation facilities.
To further assess student support for improved recreation facilities, student government
organizations conducted an on-line referendum in February 2008. With 6,466 students voting, the
referendum passed with 52.1 percent of the vote. As a result, the ISU Government of the Student
Body endorsed proceeding with planning for the recreation facility improvements.
Since the project would require an increase in the mandatory student fees, the Special Student
Fee and Tuition Committee (established by Iowa Code and consisting of an equal number of
students and administrators) met to review the referendum results and related student comments,
including concerns regarding the specific amount of the increased fees. Based on a thorough
discussion of the students’ comments, the Committee recommended to the President that the
University request Board of Regents approval to proceed with the project. If the Board grants
permission to proceed, the University would create a project planning committee consisting of a
majority of students. Based on previous student comments, the University believes the work of
the project planning committee could result in modifications to the project.
While the detailed financing plan, project size, and fee structure have yet to be finalized and
presented for Board approval, the University’s current assumptions include the issuance of bonds
to finance a $52.8 million project. In this scenario, the mandatory student fee would increase $20
per semester for two years beginning in FY 2010. In FY 2012, the year the facilities would be
occupied, the fee would increase to $107 per semester. The University will work with the Board’s
financial advisors and bond counsel, and Board staff, in developing the financing plan for the
project. This would include redirecting existing debt service fees from the Lied Recreation
project and the Ice Arena when they mature to support the recreational enterprise.
(just taking what the b-ball team would use):

New Construction - State Gym Addition ($21 Million)
Weight/Cardio room-16,000 square feet (double the size of the Lied weight room)
Basketball courts - 3 full length

State Gym Renovation ($9 Million)
Replacement of basketball flooring
Personal training area
Multipurpose rooms (2)
Air conditioning (east and west ends)
superfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2008, 05:59 PM   #74
All-Star
Donor 
 
Rogue52's Avatar
 
Re: Guess what made the Board of Regents' Agenda?

The financial impact of this could be HUGE. Much bigger than anything the basketball team could give us. I respect the needs of the basketball team but look around the country and look at the arms race in College Football. Iowa State could end up being left in the dust.

Everyone talks about how Gene Chizik is going to "jump at the first big offer". If I was Gene Chizik and I saw what Pollard was doing, I wouldn't go anywhere.

And for those saying McDermott, etc. will be ticked off about it, well, then they don't understand how an athletic department should be run. And as far as volleyball and woman's basketball, the only reason they exist is because of the football team.

The Campaign Starts Now. Write-In Gene Chizik. November 4, 2008
Rogue52 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2008, 06:00 PM   #75
Bench Warmer
 
Re: Guess what made the Board of Regents' Agenda?

My question is why are we argueing about making ISU better? How good will Jack Trice look with the improvements? How will recruits look at ISU with the improvements? Haveing an attitude that "we will never fill the stadium" is saying that we are not good enough, our fans are not good enough, we should remain #2 to EIU. I don't but it. If GC brings the wins then I feel our fans will respond.
As far as what should go first it really depends on the donors. If we do have a big donor for the stadium are we to tell him no we want the BB facility first. Or do we accept the money now and look for donor to support the practice facility later? If we don't think first class we will always be second class.
CyRocket is offline   Reply With Quote
Post New Thread  Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:02 PM.