A New Home For Perrilloux? - Page 2

bellzisu · 05-03-2008, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

You mean, just like accepting Bo Williams as a transfer?

Bo Williams has never been in trouble... NICE comparison...

SouthernHawk · 05-03-2008, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by bellzisu

Bo Williams has never been in trouble... NICE comparison...

I prefer this:

isuarch80 · 05-03-2008, 01:50 PM

I can't believe I'm reading so many people on this thread saying they'd accept him. Please, PLEASE don't even consider this... it's not a 2nd chance. It would be a 5th!!! He was suspended from the team/games/etc, 3 other times, and then the 4th time (supposedly this deal with his dad's funeral and a drug test) he finally gets everything taken away. Miles had to do this.
Also, if he's SO talented, how come he couldn't beat out an efficient but not very talented Matt Flynn? Now, I do believe he's talented, but his head is no where near where it should be.
Anyway, I would not choose to let him on our program. But I don't have any actual power over the issue.

superdorf · 05-03-2008, 01:51 PM

I'm not voting... My vote is if Chizik and his staff think he is worth it, then he's worth it.

Cardinal&Gold11 · 05-03-2008, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by superdorf

I'm not voting... My vote is if Chizik and his staff think he is worth it, then he's worth it.

I agree. I believe that Chizik knows what he's doing so I'll let him decide.

bellzisu · 05-03-2008, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Cardinal&Gold11

I agree. I believe that Chizik knows what he's doing so I'll let him decide.

I trust his decision, I just don't believe it would happen. Thats just my opinion.

Of course I'm argueing why so many would want him. He's trouble. I would love to see what other teams would say about us if we did take him in. Specially, that team to the east that we criticize when their players are in trouble....

Aclone · 05-03-2008, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by bellzisu

Why mess with the team like that??? Say if Bates wins the job this year. Then Perrilloux comes in and plays a year, who says Bates doesn't take off. He wouldn't want to redshirt. Be in his shoes. Then where do we go from there??

Also, how does anyone know he is better then Keller??? Did he play last year? Or are you on the sidelines watching practice down there.

You can't have it both ways, bellzisu. If Bates won the starting job, What makes you so sure that Perrilloux would beat him out?

Originally Posted by bellzisu

Bo Williams has never been in trouble... NICE comparison...

No, the point was that accepting talented tranfers makes Chizik seem like some kind of talent hog, and has no regard for his current players. I say that's nonsense.

Not the least because before Chizik ever accepted any kid, he'd interview him to decide whether he could make a fresh start or not. That's the point of this thread...if Chizik decided to offer Perrilloux, would you welcome him?

As far as some of you who say that Perilloux is on his 'fifth' chance...that's nonsense as well. LSU was his first chance, his next school will be his second.

And I don't want to hear about people ripping on Perriloux from anything that happened in February, unless they have also worked through the loss of a parent. Grieving is not only a disruptive process, but one that takes at least a year to work through...which is why Ryan, regardless of where he goes, woul;d benefit from a year spent on the bench, let alone in anonymity.

HiltonMagic · 05-03-2008, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Harry

I believe in second chances and this kid has already had two or three. Keep him as far from Ames as possible.

Originally Posted by isuarch80

I can't believe I'm reading so many people on this thread saying they'd accept him. Please, PLEASE don't even consider this... it's not a 2nd chance. It would be a 5th!!! He was suspended from the team/games/etc, 3 other times, and then the 4th time (supposedly this deal with his dad's funeral and a drug test) he finally gets everything taken away. Miles had to do this.
Also, if he's SO talented, how come he couldn't beat out an efficient but not very talented Matt Flynn? Now, I do believe he's talented, but his head is no where near where it should be.
Anyway, I would not choose to let him on our program. But I don't have any actual power over the issue.

Exactly, people don't realize this kid has already had multiple, multiple chances. If we would be giving him a second chance, I'd be all for it, but it'd be more like his 13th chance.

Perrilloux was suspended last summer and during recent spring drills. He was on the fringe of a counterfeiting investigation and was caught trying to enter a Baton Rouge casino with false identification. He also was involved in a nightclub fight in November, causing him to miss a game at Alabama.

Miles again suspended Perrilloux in mid-February after he missed a team meeting, skipped some classes and was late for conditioning workouts.

bellzisu · 05-03-2008, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

You can't have it both ways, bellzisu. If Bates won the starting job, What makes you so sure that Perrilloux would beat him out?

No, the point was that accepting talented tranfers makes Chizik seem like some kind of talent hog, and has no regard for his current players. I say that's nonsense.

Not the least because before Chizik ever accepted any kid, he'd interview him to decide whether he could make a fresh start or not. That's the point of this thread...if Chizik decided to offer Perrilloux, would you welcome him?

As far as some of you who say that Perilloux is on his 'fifth' chance...that's nonsense as well. LSU was his first chance, his next school will be his second.

And I don't want to hear about people ripping on Perriloux from anything that happened in February, unless they have also worked through the loss of a parent. Grieving is not only a disruptive process, but one that takes at least a year to work through...which is why Ryan, regardless of where he goes, woul;d benefit from a year spent on the bench, let alone in anonymity.

OK... Lets not get confused here... LSU GAVE HIM a 2nd chance after he screwed up while there. Then they gave him a 3rd chance, then a 4th.

ISU would or anyone be his SECOND team. Not his second chance. His current team gave him extra chances, but obviously that doesn't count if you don't get thrown off.

Again he may or may not beat out Bates or Arnauld but why mess with chemistry??

Also, as far as the question goes, would I welcome him... HECK no

Aclone · 05-03-2008, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by bellzisu

Of course I'm argueing why so many would want him. He's trouble.

Define "trouble". All this kid needs to do is grow up...and losing a parent, especially combined with being kicked off a teams, tends to do that. Especially relating to ego. If he made a commitment to Chizik to grow up, to attend classes and meetings and stay out of trouble, and Chizik accepted it, sure I'd take him.

I would love to see what other teams would say about us if we did take him in. Specially, that team to the east that we criticize when their players are in trouble....

I have to admit that I never really have given a damn what other people think...especially thiose at "a certain school to the east". Why do you think they are relevant whatsoever?

Aclone · 05-03-2008, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by bellzisu

OK... Lets not get confused here... LSU GAVE HIM a 2nd chance after he screwed up while there. Then they gave him a 3rd chance, then a 4th.

You have an odd idea what "second chances" are. Perilloux got in trouble, he was punished for it. He got in trouble again, was punished for it. And again, and again. Never was he booted from the team, then reinstated. Suspended for a game, yes. Being kicked off, out of school, then brought back, THAT is a second chance.

bellzisu · 05-03-2008, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

Define "trouble". All this kid needs to do is grow up...and losing a parent, especially combined with being kicked off a teams, tends to do that. Especially relating to ego. If he made a commitment to Chizik to grow up, to attend classes and meetings and stay out of trouble, and Chizik accepted it, sure I'd take him.

I have to admit that I never really have given a damn what other people think...especially thiose at "a certain school to the east". Why do you think they are relevant whatsoever?

Please read this article and others about ALL THE TROUBLE HE HAS BEEN IN..... Please remove the wool..

Chron.commons | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

Drive4cy · 05-03-2008, 02:22 PM

I'd love to have him here. All Chizik has to tell him is he has no room for error and even one brush with the law will have him out on his arse. I don't see how we can go wrong? I would love to add him to our QB mix that is FAR from great at this point. I doubt Perrilloux has many options to play in a BCS conference so if we wanted him I'm sure we could probably get him or atleast be heavily in the mix. My guess is Chizik won't have any contact with him.

bellzisu · 05-03-2008, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

You have an odd idea what "second chances" are. Perilloux got in trouble, he was punished for it. He got in trouble again, was punished for it. And again, and again. Never was he booted from the team, then reinstated. Suspended for a game, yes. Being kicked off, out of school, then brought back, THAT is a second chance.

So if you get in trouble numerous times and you stay on the team, that is not considered a second chance.

Interesting....

How come I have had second chances with jobs without getting fired or suspended and such, are you saying that didn't happen then??

Aclone · 05-03-2008, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by bellzisu

How come I have had second chances with jobs without getting fired or suspended and such, are you saying that didn't happen then??

Ah...I see. You're saying that you were there in the office with Perrilloux and the respective coaches to hear exactly what the situation and respective terms were...

Either that, or you've never been disciplined without it being termed a "second chance". That happens, you know.