Info on Blythe w/ Saints

isucyclone4 · 05-07-2008, 08:39 PM

yeah, it's basic scout knowledge on Blythe that his weakness is probably route running. He is fast (for a white guy especially, sorry.) His hands are PHENOMENAL. And his leaping and getting the ball at its highest point is also great. His knocks are that he definitely needs to improve the precision of his route running and he could also stand to become a better blocker downfield in the running game as well.

MontyBurns · 05-07-2008, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by fanocys

Punt returns?

Not in the NFL. He only became ISU's punt returner because Sandvig kept fumbling punts and there was nobody else to put back there. I don't think Blythe ever actually returned a punt, all I ever saw him do was fair catch the ball.

dinger · 05-07-2008, 09:36 PM

im thinking more of a punt block guy on st

fanocys · 05-07-2008, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by MontyBurns

Not in the NFL. He only became ISU's punt returner because Sandvig kept fumbling punts and there was nobody else to put back there. I don't think Blythe ever actually returned a punt, all I ever saw him do was fair catch the ball.

I was being sarcastic. I know he was just put their because there was nobody else. I sure hope they can fix that because it seems 1/2 the time we didn't even field the punt and got pinned inside the 5.

ISUFan22 · 05-08-2008, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by ajk4st8

What particulars about Todd's route running are you not impressed with? I just never noticed one way or another. Just curious.

They're simply not sharp at all. Rounds 'em off, doesn't stay within the route sometimes, etc.

cycloneryan · 05-08-2008, 09:28 AM

Yeah I was really shocked to hear about is route running, I thought that was always a weakness of his.

flander1649 · 05-08-2008, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by dinger

im thinking more of a punt block guy on st

Blythe I think will be very good at this he was very close a couple of times at ISU he might have even got one or two. I think with the long body and wing spand he could be very similar to what Pollard is like for the Chiefs.

cyclonenum1 · 05-08-2008, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

Filling a ST role for us last year and being able to "fill that role" at the NFL level are two very different things.

He may have been on the punt return team, but he's most definitely not a punt returner.

I didn't see him on the punt or place kicking coverage team all that often either.

If Todd's going to make it, it'll have to be at receiver - he'll need to improve on his route running, do something in the way of blocking for other folks and continue catching everything thrown his way.

The point is, that a guy on the roster taking up the 5th or 6th receiver slot is going to need to bring more to the table...like special teams. They only have 53 guys on an NFL roster and if you are not a starter (and even sometimes if you are)...you have to be able to bring some value via special teams performance.

markshir · 05-08-2008, 09:58 AM

There's no way Blythe will be a punt returner in the NFL - that would be a joke and I don't think anyone suggested that.

But blocking punts/kicks he actually did a pretty decent job, and I could see him developing into a decent gunner or kick coverage man if his tackling is up to it.

A guy with his size and speed is pretty rare, and NFL teams can find a way to use that.

khaal53 · 05-08-2008, 10:21 AM

I guess I don't think his route running was all that bad. Everyone knows he wasn't very fast but he was still able to get very open fairly frequently, so at least he gets good seperation. I will say that over the last couple years-his JR year especially-he didn't appear to run the routes with full effort, probably out of frustration. Also, it isn't very easy to deduce that has route running is poor when you likely dont know what route he is supposed to be running.

shildreth · 05-08-2008, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by isucyclone4

yeah, it's basic scout knowledge on Blythe that his weakness is probably route running. He is fast (for a white guy especially, sorry.) His hands are PHENOMENAL. And his leaping and getting the ball at its highest point is also great. His knocks are that he definitely needs to improve the precision of his route running and he could also stand to become a better blocker downfield in the running game as well.

He is not fast compared to other WR's in NFL. All scouting reports I have seen says he lacks breakaway speed.

bmuff · 05-08-2008, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by cyclonenum1

The point is, that a guy on the roster taking up the 5th or 6th receiver slot is going to need to bring more to the table...like special teams. They only have 53 guys on an NFL roster and if you are not a starter (and even sometimes if you are)...you have to be able to bring some value via special teams performance.

I think that what he brings is the ability to go up and catch a ball in a tight space. A guy like that could be pretty valuable on third down or in the red zone. Most NFL corners would not be able to handle him alone in a jump ball situation. I think that he sticks with the Saints due to that ability and hopefully improves the rest of his game over time.

ISUFan22 · 05-08-2008, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by cyclonenum1

The point is, that a guy on the roster taking up the 5th or 6th receiver slot is going to need to bring more to the table...like special teams. They only have 53 guys on an NFL roster and if you are not a starter (and even sometimes if you are)...you have to be able to bring some value via special teams performance.

Yes, I know - I'm making the same point.

Originally Posted by bmuff

I think that what he brings is the ability to go up and catch a ball in a tight space. A guy like that could be pretty valuable on third down or in the red zone. Most NFL corners would not be able to handle him alone in a jump ball situation. I think that he sticks with the Saints due to that ability and hopefully improves the rest of his game over time.

The rub is, you're listing just one dimension of the game. You don't keep a receiver simply because of his ability to catch the jump ball in the red zone - every position on the 53 man roster is so precious that teams simply can't afford to do that.

Aclone · 05-08-2008, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

The rub is, you're listing just one dimension of the game. You don't keep a receiver simply because of his ability to catch the jump ball in the red zone - every position on the 53 man roster is so precious that teams simply can't afford to do that.

"Cris Carter? All he does is catch touchdowns!"
-some long forgotten former NFL head coach after waiving Carter from the Eagles.

LindenCy · 05-08-2008, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

Yes, I know - I'm making the same point.

The rub is, you're listing just one dimension of the game. You don't keep a receiver simply because of his ability to catch the jump ball in the red zone - every position on the 53 man roster is so precious that teams simply can't afford to do that.

I think you can, assuming (and I stress this), that he is competent in other areas to be a 4th or 5th wide receiver. That is a whole different argument though. I don't know what his odds are, but I would think there are better teams for him than the Saints. I don't know though.