Seat Reassignment Question/ Theory

cloneluke80 · 07-02-2008, 09:43 AM

By problem I mean people sitting in $500 donation section for 2008, when they did not pony up $500... So they should have been reassigned and were not.

rkheil · 07-02-2008, 09:43 AM

In my case I have been sitting in the lower level on the 45 yard line for the last five years. I could not afford to double my donation, so my seats were moved to my proper level. That opened 4 seats at the victory level for those who were previously donating at that level first, and then new people at that level.

My seats being moved to the Captains level seating took away 4 seats from people with less points than I who donate at the captains level who were not already sitting in the captains level seats.

As you can see all new donors to the higher levels are at a disadvantage because there were already people in those seats that had first choice of what to do. That choice actually affects the seating of multiple levels of giving. My Choice affected the Victory level positively by opening up four seats, but affected the captains level negatively (Actually it greatly increases the value of the seats around my new seats, I'm just that cool) by taking four seats. People that increased their level hoping to jump to a new seating level are at a serious disadvantage as a lot of the donor levels are full and some of the people that were already giving to the proper level still are not getting to sit at that level.

It really is not that difficult to understand. A full reseating would have been the optimal solution for the majority of the fans, but in the long run could have caused more headaches to the AD and meant less money for ISU athletics.[/quote]

I upgraded from Gold to Captain's hoping to improve seats. I talked to Matt Johnson- Director of ticketing and he said the case above is exactly what happened at the Captain's level. Many people sitting in victory level seats downgraded to Captain's level and thus the opportunity for people wanting to move from Gold to Captain's was miminal. I was not happy, but after talking to Matt I understood the process a lot better. At least everyone is paying the minimum price for their seats now (although me and others are actually paying more). I guess this is good for ISU overall. I am not happy, but I am not as mad as I was before I talked to Matt.

bigB · 07-02-2008, 09:49 AM

I guess I must have just gotten lucky...moved from gold to captains...was seated in captains, as well as having my request fulfilled to move the west side.

brianhos · 07-02-2008, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by CyAggie

Two major proposed benefits of the re-indexing.

1. Getting those not paying the correct donation level for their section to make the correct donation. (Accomplished).
2. Getting more balance back for those giving more donation than their seating assignment. (Based on all of the discussion, this was not accomplished.)

There were too many seats off the table for re-assignment. I know that those in the Victory and top 1/2 of Captains level (as far as priority points rankings) were not given any options to improve seating.

It is concerning that this level of donor is still getting turned away, especially when due to the promotion many upped their giving and still see no improvements.

Right, as of now I see no reason to bump up my donation because I know it will not get me better seats. I should instead add any additional $$ to the gridiron club because that will do more good for the football team than the NCC.

rkheil · 07-02-2008, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by bigB

I guess I must have just gotten lucky...moved from gold to captains...was seated in captains, as well as having my request fulfilled to move the west side.

BigB How many seats do you have? I have 4 and they told me it was much more difficult to get 4 seats, but could have got 2 for me.

bigB · 07-02-2008, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by rkheil

BigB How many seats do you have? I have 4 and they told me it was much more difficult to get 4 seats, but could have got 2 for me.

I have 4.

rkheil · 07-02-2008, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by bigB

I have 4.

Big B So do you mind telling what section and row you got? Because that doesn't bode well for me.

bigB · 07-02-2008, 10:12 AM

I would rather not get to specific...but I'm a captains member giving above the minimum $2500...not saying that you might be in the same boat.

wiscocyclone · 07-02-2008, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by HandSanitizer

My opinion is when (if) they can get the 2nd deck in south endzone we make the lower level the new student section (they all party in the south parking lots anyway) and then make the whole upper deck Cheap seating so every one black, white, cuban or asian can get into the game without going into the tank financially.

As a black Cuban, who likes dim sum, I look forward to the day I can come to Trice and be wanted.

CycloneBax · 07-02-2008, 09:55 PM

Everyone should be able to see what is coming next year. The $2500 level will need to be expanded. All other donor locations will move on the chart. The Gold level will now need to donate $2500 or lose their seats, the Cardinal donors will have to donate $1000 or lose their seats, etc.

It seems to be looking good to get the money coming in to expand the stadium. I'm all for it. If I have to donate $2500 next year to keep my seats, I will be thrilled to know Pollard's plan is working.

majorcyfan · 07-02-2008, 10:18 PM

You need to understand that seating is NOT just a matter of how much you donate each yr, but how many yrs you have donated, how long have you bought tickets and in some respect how many tickets you buy. You should read the rules , that how you get to a certain point level.....Longevity speaks more as much as how much you give. Long ago I went to the first meeting where they then explained the point system. If you compare your points total for say the last three yrs you can follow what I have said here. Points for giving this yr are added only to this yrs total, you genreate replacement pooints next yr for next yrs donation but you continue to build overall points by logevity doating for the many yrs you give

If you donate $2,500 you get points only for that yr added to that yrs point total while longevity of giving is the core point building base. Next yr's donation replaces this yrs points for donation while longevity points of donating this yr carry forward and are added to your overall points total for next yr. Then somehow I recall, how many yrs of buying tickets is factored in as well as how many tickets you buy......And this is for all sports not just football and basketball.

I dropped from Gold plus $1,500 level to Gold level. Knew I was going to be moved so went to the Nat Cyclone office and found I was still very high on the pecking order as to get the best available seats in Gold seating. The ticket office called and explained my options,. I chose my seats and am very happy with my reseating...moved away from the 45 yard line to the 30 yard line but moved up in the lower level so I don't have far to walk down, near end of row seats and in total, lots easier to get to for an old football injured fan who doesn't like steps anymore.

ajk4st8 · 07-02-2008, 11:05 PM

Just wait until the south endzone is completed. Hopefully the students will get moved over into the endzone. This will free up a lot of good seats for donors.

CyFanz · 07-03-2008, 08:53 AM

"Many people sitting in victory level seats downgraded to Captain's level and thus the opportunity for people wanting to move from Gold to Captain's was miminal."

So there are going to be a lot of empty seats in the victory level sections based on this info. For those not happy with their seat assignments, I say sneak into those seats...it will look better on tv that way anyway!

dualforce · 07-03-2008, 09:17 AM

One of my friends increased their donation level from captains to victory and accordingly their seat location for 4 tickets was moved from the outside of section 26 (30 yard line) to section 24 (40-50 ys line)...So people have been upgraded through this reseating process. Just remember no matter where you're sitting in the stadium, we are all cheering for the same thing, Go Cyclones!

Ms3r4ISU · 07-03-2008, 09:44 AM

The bottom line is, say what you're going to do and then do what you said you would. If I don't give the minimum donation as listed on the seating chart, I don't get to sit there. Photo Viewer

Otherwise, those of us who don't have a personal relationship with JP, the ticket office and CC folks will continue to feel like we don't really matter.

Empty seats can provide a positive encouragement for those willing to make the next big $ commitment to sit there next year.