Register: Cornhuskers Seeing Red (Against ISU)

[isuforlife]

It probably depends on momentum for their team. If they have a poor preseason it may snowball. Barney will make the difference.

Thank God they have Barney..........destroyed our o-line

[CycloneErik]

One thing that did impress me for their knowledge's sake was the CBS station in Lincoln, and their nightly feature of "Know your Husker(s)," where they would profile different Huskers, facets of the team, one night was "Know your Opponent," where they would break down that week's opponent. It was a really neat sportscast, and has probably helped to brainwash many young Husker fanatics.

[Phaedrus]

Why was NU good in the past. They would take hardworking Nebraska kids, put them in a weightroom, watch them become huge and over power the other team. Then they would put a few athletes on the team from Texas or Calf and run the ball down your throat. They are the only DI school in the state so every kid's dream is to become a Husker it is all they know.

Today, most schools have a good weight program and you have to be athletic to play anywhere on the field. The game is more about speed now than power. When Nebraska is average it is harder for them to go to Texas or Calf to get players. The good instate players get chances to go elsewhere and know there is more out there than NU. Kids still want to play there but most are not DI materal.

That was a really good post. Don't forget that NU had outstanding pharmacology during the time before steroids being "bad" as well as superior facilities.

[CycloneErik]

That was a really good post. Don't forget that NU had outstanding pharmacology during the time before steroids being "bad" as well as superior facilities.

Prison-league recruiting never hurt, either.

[cyclonenum1]

Nebraska will be good because they hired a coach that wasnt good enough for the AD 4 years ago. TO is back at the Univ and he has forgot more about option football than most of us have ever known. I think the NU fan base is stuck in the past.

Why was NU good in the past. They would take hardworking Nebraska kids, put them in a weightroom, watch them become huge and over power the other team. Then they would put a few athletes on the team from Texas or Calf and run the ball down your throat. They are the only DI school in the state so every kid's dream is to become a Husker it is all they know.

Today, most schools have a good weight program and you have to be athletic to play anywhere on the field. The game is more about speed now than power. When Nebraska is average it is harder for them to go to Texas or Calf to get players. The good instate players get chances to go elsewhere and know there is more out there than NU. Kids still want to play there but most are not DI materal.

Thats just my take.

Remember Bill C was suppose to return the order.

Your comments are pretty "right on" except you forgot about the steroids...errr..."supplements" they were giving these kids!

By the way, I believe Chizik's resume' is better than Pelini's.

[zdorr40]

This statement couldn't be farther from the truth. There are good and bad Husker fans but making Iowa fans seem decent? This is illogical and quite frankly impossible.

What I'm saying is that the good ones seemed to be really good and the bad ones seem to be really bad. Unless you're saying that nothing could possibly be as bad as Iowa fans... But I assure you, the kNebraska fans I encountered their last trip to Ames were far more obnoxious than the Iowa fans I've encountered at JTS.

[dunar]

except you forgot about the steroids...errr..."supplements" they were giving these kids!

Reminded me of the first time I went to Memorial Stadium. I scored a ticket through Pella Corp. (my gf, now wife, was an intern at the time.) Anyway, during one of the pre-game videos, they talked all about their excellence in many sports, blah, blah, blah. Then they were talking facilities and the weight room. And the voice over said something like, "And you know how the Huskers continue their success?" One of the kids down the bleacher from us yelled, "STEROIDS!" in response. It even elicited smiles out of some of the surrounding kNU fans

[jdoggivjc]

It is funny that Chizik and BP have similar resumes but BP gets so much more credit and love than Chizik.

Your comments are pretty "right on" except you forgot about the steroids...errr..."supplements" they were giving these kids!

By the way, I believe Chizik's resume' is better than Pelini's.

It's actually pretty typical when it comes to name recognition. Pelini was hired by Nebraska, Chizik by Iowa State. Therefore, Pelini must have the better resume compared to Chizik, damn what the statistics in the resume actually say. ESPN actually does this every year come tourney time. They'll pit Team A against Team B to see who's more deserving of a bid, where Team A will have more wins, better wins, better RPI, etc., but then it's revealed that Team A is Virginia Tech and Team B is Syracuse and then the argument ensues about why Syracuse is more deserving than Virginia Tech when the numbers clearly show that Virginia Tech is more deserving...

[bmuff]

Nebraska will be good because they hired a coach that wasnt good enough for the AD 4 years ago. TO is back at the Univ and he has forgot more about option football than most of us have ever known. I think the NU fan base is stuck in the past.

Why was NU good in the past. They would take hardworking Nebraska kids, put them in a weightroom, watch them become huge and over power the other team. Then they would put a few athletes on the team from Texas or Calf and run the ball down your throat. They are the only DI school in the state so every kid's dream is to become a Husker it is all they know.

Today, most schools have a good weight program and you have to be athletic to play anywhere on the field. The game is more about speed now than power. When Nebraska is average it is harder for them to go to Texas or Calf to get players. The good instate players get chances to go elsewhere and know there is more out there than NU. Kids still want to play there but most are not DI materal.

Thats just my take.

Remember Bill C was suppose to return the order.

Here's my take on the demise of husker FB:
1.The first hit they took was when scholarship limits were enacted. NU used to have 120+ scholarship players and could just hoard players. Also, they had a huge walk-on program (bringing their total roster over 200).
2.The second problem was their strength program. Nebraska had the BEST S&C program in the country. They focused on explosion and routinely had excellent depth on the lines. They could basically grind it out on almost anyone. What's happened now is that their S&C coach wanted to make more money and did plenty of consulting, basically giving away their secrets. Now, many programs have S&C that is equal if not better than nebraska.
3.Speed on defense made the huskers option I offense no longer viable. Yeah, it works sometimes, but it can't be the staple of an offense anymore.

IMO, comparing fans, all fanbases have their idiots. Nebraska idiots are at least knowledgable and at least have a basis for any arrogance (as opposed to iowa fans many of whom couldn't name half their starting lineup). Also, I think that you see more idiots in Omaha rather than Lincoln. The people who actually go to Lincoln and attend games are fairly welcoming.

[Ficklone02]

I have a hard time believing that a Tom Osborne led team leaned partially on steroids for there performance. I think he is a man of great integrity.

I really agree with the statement that NU's new philosphy under Callahan might have affected there recruiting negatively. Previously they would recruit a certain type of player that not many others were recruiting, and thus could get exactly what they wanted, with plenty of depth. All of a sudden under Callahan they are trying to recruit the same type of players as most other schools. Mostly though, I just don't think Callahan is a great uniter of people.....he should most definitely go back to the NFL and be a coordinator again where he is at his best.

[MookInLincoln]

Prison-league recruiting never hurt, either.

If the Callahan era will be remembered for stars (highly rated recruits) then the Bo era may be remembered for bars (welcome back criminals).

The state is currently rejoicing that felony robbery charges against DE recruit Josh Williams have been reduced to misdemeanors. He has since joined the team in Lincoln.

Also, starting TE Hunter Teafatiller remains with the team after his THIRD arrest for driving under the influence.

This is of course after Bo announced his 'zero tolerance' policy last winter LOL

I suppose we should credit Bo for suspending OL Andy Christensen when he was arrested for second degree sexual assault.

[aeroclone]

If the Callahan era will be remembered for stars (highly rated recruits) then the Bo era may be remembered for bars (welcome back criminals).

The state is currently rejoicing that felony robbery charges against DE recruit Josh Williams have been reduced to misdemeanors. He has since joined the team in Lincoln.

Also, starting TE Hunter Teafatiller remains with the team after his THIRD arrest for driving under the influence.

This is of course after Bo announced his 'zero tolerance' policy last winter LOL

I suppose we should credit Bo for suspending OL Andy Christensen when he was arrested for second degree sexual assault.

Hmm, sounds very similar to another school we are all very familiar with. Well, we all know it has lead to national titles over there, perhaps it will work for Nebby too.

[frontrangeclone]

Here's my take on the demise of husker FB:
1.The first hit they took was when scholarship limits were enacted. NU used to have 120+ scholarship players and could just hoard players. Also, they had a huge walk-on program (bringing their total roster over 200).
2.The second problem was their strength program. Nebraska had the BEST S&C program in the country. They focused on explosion and routinely had excellent depth on the lines. They could basically grind it out on almost anyone. What's happened now is that their S&C coach wanted to make more money and did plenty of consulting, basically giving away their secrets. Now, many programs have S&C that is equal if not better than nebraska.
3.Speed on defense made the huskers option I offense no longer viable. Yeah, it works sometimes, but it can't be the staple of an offense anymore.

IMO, comparing fans, all fanbases have their idiots. Nebraska idiots are at least knowledgable and at least have a basis for any arrogance (as opposed to iowa fans many of whom couldn't name half their starting lineup). Also, I think that you see more idiots in Omaha rather than Lincoln. The people who actually go to Lincoln and attend games are fairly welcoming.

there is also a 3rd type of fan in the state, and those are the folks from the hinterlands of nebraska.... the small towns and ranches/farms of that 7 hour void between lincoln and cheyenne. Since we're using broad paintbrushes in the thread, let me elaborate. These people worship all things husker and will drive 6+ hours to watch a spring game. They despise big cities and yet think Omaha is the greatest in the world. Academically, they think UNL is Harvard, Cal Tech, and MIT combined. They don't recognize the fact that the football players are 18-21 year old student-athletes, they are the pro-team of the state (unless the said athlete gets good grades and makes some "academic team", which gives them something else to brag about). They don't get outside of NE much, so they are nearly dumbfounded when interacting with someone who is a fan/alum of another big 12 school. They still have "back-to-back '94-'95 national champ" stickers on the backs of their trucks and horse trailers. They don't even acknowledge NU basketball, although they will check and see if Creighton won on occasion. They have recently become husker baseball fans. How do I know this? I basically lived it for nearly 4 years while I lived in western Neb. on my first job out of grad school. Thank god I was only a few hours from Denver.

[cyclonenum1]

I have a hard time believing that a Tom Osborne led team leaned partially on steroids for there performance. I think he is a man of great integrity.

I really agree with the statement that NU's new philosphy under Callahan might have affected there recruiting negatively. Previously they would recruit a certain type of player that not many others were recruiting, and thus could get exactly what they wanted, with plenty of depth. All of a sudden under Callahan they are trying to recruit the same type of players as most other schools. Mostly though, I just don't think Callahan is a great uniter of people.....he should most definitely go back to the NFL and be a coordinator again where he is at his best.

Do you have a hard time believing that he didn't kick a player off his team for dragging a girl down the stairs by her hair? Lawrence Phillips physically assaults a girl like this and gets a short suspension...yeah, that is "great integrity".

Hey, I always considered Osborne/Nebraska to run a relatively "clean" program (especially as compared to Switzer/OU) but everything is relative.

At the end of the day it was all about winning...steroids give an advantage so they (including Dr. Tom) look the other way, players abusing women...warrants only a short suspension...if they can play like Phillips did at NU.

[MookInLincoln]

Thank God they have Barney..........destroyed our o-line

I have heard numerous media folk and fans alike claim that their offensive line will be 'amazingly good' because Barney is back