The Jack

**Palmer** · 08-04-2008, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by ornryactor

You don't need the asterisk to tell you that. Right on the item line, you can see the blank cell for the month it was approved by the BOR, which means it hasn't been presented to them yet. JP's not going to take it to the Regents until we have the funding in place, and as long as we have the funding, the Regents will sign off on it with no problem. Besides, I can see JP trying to keep this quiet- this would be a huge morale boost to surprise Cyclone Nation with at some point this fall. I bet he keeps this one up his sleeve as much as possible (super-sleuth message-board maniacs excepted).

He will announce it during the Kansas game....to 'Sweet Caroline' while we are up 21 to 7.

**scottie33** · 08-04-2008, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by ornryactor

You don't need the asterisk to tell you that. Right on the item line, you can see the blank cell for the month it was approved by the BOR, which means it hasn't been presented to them yet. JP's not going to take it to the Regents until we have the funding in place, and as long as we have the funding, the Regents will sign off on it with no problem. Besides, I can see JP trying to keep this quiet- this would be a huge morale boost to surprise Cyclone Nation with at some point this fall. I bet he keeps this one up his sleeve as much as possible (super-sleuth message-board maniacs excepted).

my question is...how long before FPM takes this off of their spreadsheet? If I remember correctly, this was a problem when this was brought out a few months ago per se...that they deleted the spreadsheet or the line of interest from that spreadsheet.

**scottie33** · 08-04-2008, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Palmer

He will announce it during the Kansas game....to 'Sweet Caroline' while we are up 21 to 7.

While we are all asleep...and singing bum bum bum while we snore

**d4nim4l** · 08-04-2008, 02:51 PM

Looks like according to the Register archives (purchasing old news? Seriously) Pollard did his pitch to continue investigating the architecture of Phase II back in April.

So...guess we're still waiting on that gift...

**IcSyU** · 08-04-2008, 02:52 PM

All this talk about the stadium gets me excited to be an inhabitant of it in 24 days, 2 hours, and 9 minutes

**d4nim4l** · 08-04-2008, 02:55 PM

Then there is this talk from the Regents' June meeting...

http://www2.state.ia.us/regents/Meet...608_ITEM12.pdf

Look at Page 10.

Jack Trice Stadium Improvements-2006 Phase 2

2 BoR Ofc - AE, PS $ 27,000,000 Private Giving N/A N/A
38,000,000 Revenue Bonds

$ 65,000,000

Asterisk denotes it was previously approved to continue with the project.

**Wesley** · 08-04-2008, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by BryceC

Brick is so expensive though. Stuff like expanding the concourses and improving the bathrooms and concessions are things that needed done. Brick would have been really nice but it doesn't have any functional difference between the asphalt.

Brick (both horizontal and/or vertical) is very expensive and usually is the first item to be deleted if you do not have enough funding. Curb and gutter goes next, then crushed rock replaces asphalt. You get the picture.

**aeroclone** · 08-04-2008, 03:19 PM

Fingers crossed that the funding comes through soon, because it looks like if it does we are lookin at a new and improved Jack for next season.

**CarolinaCy** · 08-04-2008, 03:21 PM

Just doing some rudimentary investigation, I found a nice Holland paver (8"x4"x1.75") for $0.74 at Lowe's. It takes 4.5 units to cover a square foot, for a total of $3.33 per sq. ft. Now, obviously a distributor would get you a much better deal, but let's use those numbers for argument's sake.

How does that compare to the cost of asphalt at roughly the same thickness? Is it outrageously more? I have no idea, so I would appreciate any input.

**jaretac** · 08-04-2008, 03:28 PM

I remember in Washington state, I think it cost us around $100 for 3 cubic yards of asphalt, but that was at a discounted price because they were paving the street in front of our house.

**aeroclone08** · 08-04-2008, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by CarolinaCy

Just doing some rudimentary investigation, I found a nice Holland paver (8"x4"x1.75") for $0.74 at Lowe's. It takes 4.5 units to cover a square foot, for a total of $3.33 per sq. ft. Now, obviously a distributor would get you a much better deal, but let's use those numbers for argument's sake.

How does that compare to the cost of asphalt at roughly the same thickness? Is it outrageously more? I have no idea, so I would appreciate any input.

We'll use that and the $100 asphalt that Jartec also quotes. For guesstimation and comparison's sake, lets say the concourse is 350 ft long by 50 ft wide. That puts us at a total of 17500 sq. ft. Using brick at $3.33/sq. ft equates to $58275. We'll say the contractor gets a discount and round down to and even $50000. For the same thickness asphalt (I'm assuming anything below the 1st 1.75 inches is the same, I doubt it is, but this is rough work), we're looking at just over 2500 cu. ft. (about 95 cu. yd.), so about $3150. Wow, that is pretty significant. (I had no clue when I started working this out)

**scottie33** · 08-04-2008, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by aeroclone08

We'll use that and the $100 asphalt that Jartec also quotes. For guesstimation and comparison's sake, lets say the concourse is 350 ft long by 50 ft wide. That puts us at a total of 17500 sq. ft. Using brick at $3.33/sq. ft equates to $58275. We'll say the contractor gets a discount and round down to and even $50000. For the same thickness asphalt (I'm assuming anything below the 1st 1.75 inches is the same, I doubt it is, but this is rough work), we're looking at just over 2500 cu. ft. (about 95 cu. yd.), so about $3150. Wow, that is pretty significant. (I had no clue when I started working this out)

That, and add in all the labor it takes to lay all those bricks down compared to say a 5 man crew running an asphalt paver that can do quite a few road miles per day...way cheaper that way.

**CycloneErik** · 08-04-2008, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by Palmer

He will announce it during the Kansas game....to 'Sweet Caroline' while we are up 21 to 7.

I like the way Snrub thinks!!

**cyclonedave25** · 08-04-2008, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by scottie33

That, and add in all the labor it takes to lay all those bricks down compared to say a 5 man crew running an asphalt paver that can do quite a few road miles per day...way cheaper that way.

Since I am a student and can't afford to donate large sums of money, yet, I would donate my labor. I will happily lay brick for Jack Trice Stadium to make it look better, for... hmmm.. $5/hour?

I'm sure I can find some people to help also.

**clones26** · 08-04-2008, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by cyclonedave25

Since I am a student and can't afford to donate large sums of money, yet, I would donate my labor. I will happily lay brick for Jack Trice Stadium to make it look better, for... hmmm.. $5/hour?

I'm sure I can find some people to help also.

I'll do it on the weekends for free beer and a parking pass to BBALL games, those winter nights are freezing!!!