What can ISU do to raise money???

[dunar]

This would then lead to the Cyclone Club starting a database of students who will soon graduate. Hopefully this would allow them to contact these new grads and solicite donations and start to develope a young donation group that will last for a long time.

NCC is through the ISU Foundation, so from what I understand, it is like donating to ISU and specifying where you want the money to go. Of course, there are the perks - I haven't done a specific donation to my college to get better seats in an econ class... The Foundation is amazing at knowing a lot about all alumni and the NCC was marketed well to me when I graduated. The $50 Varsity level was a great way to get involved (that's gone now right? I guess $100 isn't far off...) I just get a little annoyed by the two or three extra calls every year for other ISU causes (library, band, vet med - none of which I was involved with in my time at ISU...) The last vet med one was a little hard - they called after we took a dog there to be cremated and forgot to put that in the notes. "So how was your dog's recovery?" "She was dead." Silence. OUCH! (I used to work for the Foundation in general fundrasing, so I do know that its a tough job...)

[cyclonenum1]

A more robust corporate partner (sponsorship) program.

[Aclone]

I don't know how much plainer it can be said, but we made our bed when we went from the Big 8 to the Big 12, now we have to sleep in it.

Simple solution. Start playing footsie (exploratory talks) with the Big Ten/11 to become their balancing twelfth school. That'll get their attention. Who would they add to replace us, Arkansas? Nebraska would just love that. For that matter, they grab enough of UT, OU and A&M's recruits as it is without being in the conference. Who else? Maybe Rice? Houston? TCU? SMU?

And there, you've got Nebby's vote.

[Cyclone90]

A more robust corporate partner (sponsorship) program.

Now you're talkin'! Get a sponsor for the entire Iowa State Center. Anytime an event is held at JT, Hilton, CY Stephens or Scheman they get their name put on the event. Principal presents ISU vs Nebraska at Jack Trice Field. Principal presents ISU vs Kansas at Hilton, presents Phantom of the Opera at C.Y. Stephens, etc. That would be a ton of exposure to sports fans and non-sports fans and would deliver a nice chunk of change.

[Erik4Cy]

Win games, in all sports...W's and lots of 'em

[MontyBurns]

Although true, this argument is made so often it gets quite boring. JP has made the plea for schools to band together before to get the revenue sharing policy changed. He can get Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Baylor, and Colorado to come to the table with him. Unfortunately, that leaves him one vote short as it will take a total of 9 votes to get the revenue sharing policy to change. So, who else is he going to get to come to the table with him? Texas? Oklahoma? Texas A&M? Nebraska? Those four schools are the only four schools left, and all four of them benefit most from the current revenue sharing package? Which one of those four schools is going to be generous enough to straight up give their excess revenue to Iowa State? I don't know how much plainer it can be said, but we made our bed when we went from the Big 8 to the Big 12, now we have to sleep in it.

Then they need to play hardball and talk about leaving to join other conferences or forming a new conference. Not that they'd do it, but at least open the possibility. What kind of TV and bowl contracts would the 4 remaining teams be able to get?

[brianhos]

I think if the Alumni Association and the Cyclone Club could get together and maybe at least share their lists of donors and prospects that would help but the Alumni Association problaby won't do that.

Also, when was the last time any Alumni on here who is not a current donor got a phone call from the athletic dept to donate? Yeah maybe I should just do it out of the goodness of my heart but I am lazy and don't have much money. Sometimes a simple phone call to ask for it would make a great impact.

They do... I get calls from the alumni association saying I donate to the NCC but not them, and they want their cut.

But seriously, treat the donors better, don't bait us into donating more, and then when we do, tell us we cannot upgrade and give us worse parking. I feel like I was duped out of my donation. Treat the donors well, and we will upgrade, treat us poorly and we will maintain.

[MontyBurns]

Now you're talkin'! Get a sponsor for the entire Iowa State Center. Anytime an event is held at JT, Hilton, CY Stephens or Scheman they get their name put on the event. Principal presents ISU vs Nebraska at Jack Trice Field. Principal presents ISU vs Kansas at Hilton, presents Phantom of the Opera at C.Y. Stephens, etc. That would be a ton of exposure to sports fans and non-sports fans and would deliver a nice chunk of change.

It's already done. Last year Mediacom and Hagie, among others, had "name sponsorships" for specific football games. I believe they get to put up an ad/display outside the stadium gates and they get ad space in the stadium and time/recognition on the video screen. I don't know what they pay for it but I don't think it's enough to to bowl in the stadium...

[Tornado man]

I think you're implying that we get more money from the Big 12 than we would get if we were in the MAC or WAC or Conference USA. We are, but that doesn't mean we're getting a fair deal. We have no control over what games the various networks choose -- and if they choose to broadcast Texas on national TV 6 times in one year and ISU zero times, Texas gets far more revenue than we do -- but it's not correct to say Texas "puts in" more money just because they're on TV more. They have no control over the TV networks' decisions, and regardless of who's on TV, we play the same number of games and have the same expenses they do. Until the Big XII gets revenue sharing like the SEC and Big Ten have, the rich will get richer and the poor will stay poorer.

If the revenue sharing matrix in the Big XII is so crippling to the have-nots, could you please explain the recent success of Missouri and Kansas, and prior to that, K-State?
"Fair" and "equal" are two different things. I would love equal revenue sharing for all schools in the future; it would make for a more stable conference. I think there is still a fear that Texas, Okla., and Nebraska would look around if they became unhappy. We need their income.
The Big Ten and SEC have no such worries with equal shares for all - both conferences are awash with $$$$, and everyone's happy.

[MontyBurns]

If the revenue sharing matrix in the Big XII is so crippling to the have-nots, could you please explain the recent success of Missouri and Kansas, and prior to that, K-State?

By recent success you are referring to one year. Any team can catch lightning in a bottle and have a good year or two.

Do you seriously think Missouri and Kansas have the financial resources to match what Texas and Oklahoma will accomplish in football over the long run?

[cygrads]

Can guy gets all of my cans until he gets some new shorts so I don't have to see the Moose Knuckle.

I'm not sure what that means but I about spit coffee all over my laptop!!!!!!!!!!

[Tornado man]

By recent success you are referring to one year. Any team can catch lightning in a bottle and have a good year or two.

Do you seriously think Missouri and Kansas have the financial resources to match what Texas and Oklahoma will accomplish in football over the long run?

Kansas State had a lot more than a "good year or two."
Look at their success, under Snyder, and compare it with Nebraska's downturn , even with their mega $$$. It brings out the fact that the selection of the right FB coach matters more to a program than totally equal revenue sharing.

[MontyBurns]

Kansas State had a lot more than a "good year or two."
Look at their success, under Snyder, and compare it with Nebraska's downturn , even with their mega $$$. It brings out the fact that the selection of the right FB coach matters more to a program than totally equal revenue sharing.

I guess you are seriously comparing Kansas State's football program with Texas' and Oklahoma's. They aren't even remotely in the same class -- and never have been outside of an odd year or two -- but there's no reasoning with lunatics.

[Tornado man]

I guess you are seriously comparing Kansas State's football program with Texas' and Oklahoma's. They aren't even remotely in the same class -- and never have been outside of an odd year or two -- but there's no reasoning with lunatics.

Speaking of Okahoma, look up their record under John Blake. They finally had to fire him and hire Stoops. The mega Sooner budget, and their history, meant nothing when the wrong coach was hired.

[superfan]

Based on some emails that i have based back and forth with the AD something along these lines is in the works...i believe beginning with the class of '09 they will be giving a one year Cyclone Club membership to graduating seniors.

They already started this. I got a complimentary Century membership as a graduation "present" last May. Hey, saved me $100 I don't have right now.

For money, we could whore ourselves out to 1000 fat chicks for $50 apiece...or 50 really fat chicks for $1000 apiece.

Hey, don't look at me like that. Fat chicks need lovin' too. But they gotta pay.

(All Hail Quagmire)