Blythe is waived

cycloneryan · 08-26-2008, 09:35 AM

Classic example of a player built for college football and not the NFL

mplscyclone · 08-26-2008, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by twojman

Agreed, you cannot teach 6'5".

I know a few people that are 6'5 that could NOT play football.

Blythe isn't a complete player and he's injury prone. I was thinking my Junior year that if he were to bulk up, he could play TE and would be a good red zone target.....

The problem is that Blythe can't block and because he's so injury prone, he probably couldn't handle how physical TE could be.

Really too bad, as he had a lot of potential, and I hope he finds something he can do in his life that makes him happy!

Clones85' · 08-26-2008, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by mplscyclone

I know a few people that are 6'5 that could NOT play football.

Blythe isn't a complete player and he's injury prone. I was thinking my Junior year that if he were to bulk up, he could play TE and would be a good red zone target.....

The problem is that Blythe can't block and because he's so injury prone, he probably couldn't handle how physical TE could be.

Really too bad, as he had a lot of potential, and I hope he finds something he can do in his life that makes him happy!

Todd Blythe is injury prone?!?! This is a new development. I know that Ex- ISU WR Montgomery took a cheap shot at Blythe and tore his ACL. Other than that was he ever hurt? Did he ever miss a game due to injury?

I love the Blythe haters on this board. They really know what they are talking about

ISUFan22 · 08-26-2008, 09:53 AM

I wouldn't call Todd injury prone at all. He had the pancreas issue, which is not a football injury. The only other one that I can recall was his ACL before the sophomore season.

He simply didn't develop beyond that year and failed to do the little things right.

ISUFan22 · 08-26-2008, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by Clones85'

I love the Blythe haters on this board. They really know what they are talking about

Couldn't care less what you call the group that sees Todd for who he is.

He's simply not an NFL caliber receiver. At least today. Perhaps his eyes will open, he'll get a coach that will ride his tail and he'll become what he could be.

But today? Nope.

Clones85' · 08-26-2008, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

Couldn't care less what you call the group that sees Todd for who he is.

He's simply not an NFL caliber receiver. At least today. Perhaps his eyes will open, he'll get a coach that will ride his tail and he'll become what he could be.

But today? Nope.

I didn't mention anything about him in the NFL. It is the people that try to downplay him at ISU. The guy did some pretty unreal things at ISU and people don't appreciate it b/c they expected him to be an All American. That is just wrong. He had 4 times more TD in ONE GAME than our top two WR's this year have had in their careers.

I just don't understand how people can take a guy who set all these records at Iowa State, and did it with a below average QB, and be critical b/c he didn't live up to their expectations.

mplscyclone · 08-26-2008, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

Couldn't care less what you call the group that sees Todd for who he is.

He's simply not an NFL caliber receiver. At least today. Perhaps his eyes will open, he'll get a coach that will ride his tail and he'll become what he could be.

But today? Nope.

Exactly. His problem is that no one ever pushed him. He was a star in High School and a star in college. The coaching staff here didn't push him to be his best; they were happy with where he was at.

I wouldn't place all the blame on him, but when you've always been considered good, a lot of athletes don't have that internal drive to become the best and see holes in their game.

If a coach tells him something that would help them develop, they take it personally.

I don't know all of the details, but I'm sure Blythe was always told he was doing fine, no one pushed him, and he didn't push himself. He was a good college WR, the best we've had in a while, but he just didn't have the drive to become an NFL talent.

I wouldn't write him off completley, but he's more of a possesion receiver and I can't think of a developmental league that he could participate in that would help him get to the NFL, as he isn't built for the AFL.

ISUFan22 · 08-26-2008, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Clones85'

I didn't mention anything about him in the NFL. It is the people that try to downplay him at ISU. The guy did some pretty unreal things at ISU and people don't appreciate it b/c they expected him to be an All American. That is just wrong. He had 4 times more TD in ONE GAME than our top two WR's this year have had in their careers.

I just don't understand how people can take a guy who set all these records at Iowa State, and did it with a below average QB, and be critical b/c he didn't live up to their expectations.

Hmm, some hypocrisy here. Meyer did some amazing things here too, yet he's below average and Todd isn't?

Both guys could have, and should have, been much better. I firmly believe both got comfortable, the staff allowed it and we saw it on the field.

Yes, Todd was a very good collegiate receiver. Not once did I discount that. However, I'm not sure I consider him great. In ISU standards, probably. In national standards? Not quite.

It's very easy to see what Todd fell short in doing when watching a couple ISU games.

ISUFan22 · 08-26-2008, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by mplscyclone

Exactly. His problem is that no one ever pushed him. He was a star in High School and a star in college. The coaching staff here didn't push him to be his best; they were happy with where he was at.

I wouldn't place all the blame on him, but when you've always been considered good, a lot of athletes don't have that internal drive to become the best and see holes in their game.

Right. I have little doubt we'd be having a very difference conversation about him had he played under the current staff for more years than he did under the former staff.

I also think he could have taken it more upon himself to get better. In the end, he is the one that is likely to miss out on some big bucks.

Clones85' · 08-26-2008, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

Hmm, some hypocrisy here. Meyer did some amazing things here too, yet he's below average and Todd isn't?

Both guys could have, and should have, been much better. I firmly believe both got comfortable, the staff allowed it and we saw it on the field.

Yes, Todd was a very good collegiate receiver. Not once did I discount that. However, I'm not sure I consider him great. In ISU standards, probably. In national standards? Not quite.

It's very easy to see what Todd fell short in doing when watching a couple ISU games.

If you don't know the difference between a player of Meyer's caliber and Blythe's caliber, than let me know and I will stop arguing with you right now.

I have had this same argument with you before ISUFan22. You like to downplay Blythe as a Cyclone b/c he didn't block. You even make the claim that Hamilton is a better WR than Blythe (mainly b/c he is a better blocker). That is all I need to hear to know that I shouldn't waste my time arguing with you

ISUFan22 · 08-26-2008, 10:18 AM

Todd's inability to block is just one part of it. How about his lack of crisp route-running? Him virtually being a one-dimensional receiver?

How often do you hear people saying Todd is a possession receiver? A guy that will routinely go across the middle? Make key blocks for ya? Sell the play even when he's not going to get the ball?

You don't. Those things are huge in what level of quality a receiver is.

BryceC · 08-26-2008, 10:26 AM

I think the only reason people get down on Blythe (myself included) is that I think he had the ability to be an All-Conference type player. For an abundance of reasons already stated that never happened. Both he and Meyer accomplished a lot of great things in a Cyclone uniform based on our record books, but on a national or even Big 12 level they were not great amongst their peers as their careers wore on. And I really don't think that is really debateable.

I also think that he is a victim of the Mac hype machine that really pumped him up into sounding like he is one of the best players in the nation.

Clones85' · 08-26-2008, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

Todd's inability to block is just one part of it. How about his lack of crisp route-running? Him virtually being a one-dimensional receiver?

How often do you hear people saying Todd is a possession receiver? A guy that will routinely go across the middle? Make key blocks for ya? Sell the play even when he's not going to get the ball?

You don't. Those things are huge in what level of quality a receiver is.

His lack of route running caught him 176 passes and 31 TD's.

Listen you obviously are pretty set in your ways. I will just say ask this. Do you remember Blythe running in's or posts, catching the ball, getting drilled, holding onto the ball, and getting up? You should because he did it many times.

I am not saying that Todd was the greatest blocker in the world but he is not nearly as bad as you make him out to be. Go back and watch the Toledo game last year. How bout the Nebraska game. He had some key blocks in that game

jdoggivjc · 08-26-2008, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

I wouldn't call Todd injury prone at all. He had the pancreas issue, which is not a football injury. The only other one that I can recall was his ACL before the sophomore season.

He simply didn't develop beyond that year and failed to do the little things right.

I know the guy had mono- I don't know if that's the pancreas problem you're referring to. That being said, mono's not an injury-prone either. Then again, if he focused more on football prep and less on playing suckface...

DaddyMac · 08-26-2008, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by Clones85'

His lack of route running caught him 176 passes and 31 TD's.

Listen you obviously are pretty set in your ways. I will just say ask this. Do you remember Blythe running in's or posts, catching the ball, getting drilled, holding onto the ball, and getting up? You should because he did it many times.

I am not saying that Todd was the greatest blocker in the world but he is not nearly as bad as you make him out to be. Go back and watch the Toledo game last year. How bout the Nebraska game. He had some key blocks in that game

Todd's size garnered him those stats.

His route running was marginally better than mine. His cuts had more curves than Carmen Electra.

He was a fine receiver who was bigger and stronger than most of the defenders playing him. And he could hold on to the ball well. But I would submit that if his route running was better, his stats could have been much, much better.