Yes or No...Can you smoke behind the concessions on the West concourse?

**CyAggie** · 09-03-2008, 01:33 PM

If the law says it is a smoke free area, even if you disagree, it is the law.

**jaretac** · 09-03-2008, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by CloneIce

That is simply an example used to illustrate my point.... how would you like it if some D-bag came up to you and told you what to do?

Obviously you didn't finish my post. The law is the law is the law. If you break the law, no matter how mundane the law may seem, you run the risk of someone telling you what you can and can't do, depending on the law it could be for a long time. As I said, it is better for everyone if citizens help enforce laws like this then to make government officials do it.

**06_CY** · 09-03-2008, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by ISU BET

what about those that bring booze into the games? if you see someone dump a flask of rum into a glass of coke are you going to run and tattle on them too? here are some words to live, and die by:

SNITCHES GET STITCHES

Originally Posted by CloneIce

Heck yeah! You just nailed my hobby at games. I haven't been to a game in a decade without a flask of rum to keep the tailgate going. I'm sure there are some on the board that would tell the cops because apparently they go to games to tell other fans what to do, not watch the Cyclones.

wow, big tough guys here...looks like some still live in the 3rd grade.

**CloneIce** · 09-03-2008, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by jaretac

Obviously you didn't finish my post. The law is the law is the law. If you break the law, no matter how mundane the law may seem, you run the risk of someone telling you what you can and can't do, depending on the law it could be for a long time. As I said, it is better for everyone if citizens help enforce laws like this this to make government officials do it.

No, its not better for everyone to enforce laws that they may not believe in simply because the gov't says its a law. In fact, that is terrible for our democracy.

Its better for everyone if citizens fight unjust laws that shouldn't be in place in a free country in the first place.

For all of you people who support laws like this simply because it is outlawing an activity that you don't personally like..... just wait. Next time the gov't will come for something that you enjoy doing.

I hate this new direction laws are going in this country... if people personally don't like an activity, they want to make it illegal, instead of thinking about whether personal activities and choices should be controlled by the Gov't to begin with. IMO they shouldn't be, not in a free country. Apparently some disagree with me. Some people believe Gov't should have more control over us Americans. I disagree.

I think alot of people don't put any thought into this. You just think that since you don't smoke it should be illegal. You don't think about personal freedoms and rights, and how fragile they are.

**CloneIce** · 09-03-2008, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by vanillathrilla

wow, big tough guys here...looks like some still live in the 3rd grade.

We are being tough guys because we think its pathetic to go around telling others what to do at a football game instead of minding our own business?

Nice reasoning. Looks like some still think and reason at a 3rd grade level.

**06_CY** · 09-03-2008, 01:49 PM

If your bothering someone with what your doing (legal or not), then it is their business...

I really want to see a smoker tell a non-smoker "If you tell on me, I'm gonna slug you." I would probably fall on the ground laughing...

**CyGuy33** · 09-03-2008, 01:52 PM

This has sure escalated quickly. I bet Brick kills a guy with a Trident in a minute

**Palmer** · 09-03-2008, 02:00 PM

Can tell it is getting closer to gameday!

**CYVADER** · 09-03-2008, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by vanillathrilla

wow, big tough guys here...looks like some still live in the 3rd grade.

not trying to sound all big and tough, just the morals i was raised by. how's this one: secrets don't make friends they keep them. or loose lips sink ships. basically what i was trying to say is that nobody likes a tattle tale, and if you do rat somebody out for something that isn't really involving you, don't be surprised to get retaliation be it physical or whatever. if that is being big and tough, consider me arnold schwarzenager.

**jaretac** · 09-03-2008, 02:13 PM

This is the last thing I'm going to say.

The reason we have laws like this in our society is because there are allot of people who think that they should be able to do what they want, when they want, where they want, without regard for those around them. These people are not proclaiming freedom, they are proclaiming selfishness. They are proclaiming that they care about themselves more then anyone else and other people will just have to live with the consequences of their actions. As a result, these that are being walked over have forced their representative to do something about it. I don't total agree with the law, however, I agree less with the attitude that this is a free country so I should be able to do whatever I please. This is still a society that you have to live in, and it is best for everyone if you help keep the peace.

**homeslice** · 09-03-2008, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by cycloneworld

Don't forget you can't stand up at games anymore either.

I'm fine with people standing at games during critical moments, third and forth downs, kick offs....that type of thing, but it torks me off when they think that they need to stand for the entire game. Do the eyes have better operational ability when one stands as opposed to when one sits? Mine don't that I'm aware of.

It is really fun to have people standing throughout a game when I bring my young kids along so that they can't see anything. That makes for money really well spent and a truly enjoyable experience for the whole family.

**HILLCYD** · 09-03-2008, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by homeslice

I'm fine with people standing at games during critical moments, third and forth downs, kick offs....that type of thing, but it torks me off when they think that they need to stand for the entire game. Do the eyes have better operational ability when one stands as opposed to when one sits? Mine don't that I'm aware of.

It is really fun to have people standing throughout a game when I bring my young kids along so that they can't see anything. That makes for money really well spent and a truly enjoyable experience for the whole family.

Watch yourself. You can't be a true fan if you sit down. If you use your *** one time during the game your fan-card is withdrawn immediately. No questions asked.

**bmuff** · 09-03-2008, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by jaretac

Obviously you didn't finish my post. The law is the law is the law. If you break the law, no matter how mundane the law may seem, you run the risk of someone telling you what you can and can't do, depending on the law it could be for a long time. As I said, it is better for everyone if citizens help enforce laws like this then to make government officials do it.

If it's in the stands, I could see being upset. Otherwise, if you don't like it, take two steps upwind. It's not hard. I mean, those people are usually standing out of the way and not really bothering anyone. We had smokers at our tailgate with no issues. I think that some people just like to *****.

**MaxPower57** · 09-03-2008, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by bmuff

If it's in the stands, I could see being upset. Otherwise, if you don't like it, take two steps upwind. It's not hard. I mean, those people are usually standing out of the way and not really bothering anyone. We had smokers at our tailgate with no issues. I think that some people just like to *****.

+1

**homeslice** · 09-03-2008, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by bmuff

If it's in the stands, I could see being upset. Otherwise, if you don't like it, take two steps upwind. It's not hard. I mean, those people are usually standing out of the way and not really bothering anyone. We had smokers at our tailgate with no issues. I think that some people just like to b#tch.

OR, the people that are breaking the law could move to someplace where they aren't breaking the law instead of the people that aren't breaking the law having to move. Just a thought.