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    Re: IOWA is not Kent St.

    Quote Originally Posted by cys_av8r View Post
    If we tackle like we did last night, it will be a VERY long day in Iowa City. A VERY long day.

    Problems like this have to drive Chiz absolutely freakin crazy.
    I couldn't agree more!!!

    I wish they would play tomorrow!!! This is going to be a stressful week!

    The one good thing for us is Iowa has played absolute cupcakes and have faced no gametime pressure whatsoever. Kent State was a good warm-up for us.
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    Re: IOWA is not Kent St.

    Quote Originally Posted by cys_av8r View Post
    If we tackle like we did last night, it will be a VERY long day in Iowa City. A VERY long day.

    Problems like this have to drive Chiz absolutely freakin crazy.
    Gene's not happy with last night.

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    Re: IOWA is not Kent St.

    Quote Originally Posted by KMAC_ATTACK View Post
    One thing to consider this week, and this is NOT a bust on Iowa, but, Shonn Greene cannot even compare to Eugene Jarvis. I'm not defending our defense because we all knew with the losses along our DL that this could happen - it is....our DL is giving up way too many running lanes and good running teams will exploit that.

    But, Eugene Jarvis is an NFL caliber RB he's already on the watch list for next years draft. He's the highest returning rusher in the nation (had almost 1700 yds last year) and with that type of quantity your gonna give up yards against a quality back.

    The thing that jumped out at me was the third down conversions and some that were long 15-19 yards. Your defense needs to be able to stop those.....

    I know everyone will be looking at giving up 139 yards to Jarvis is too much, but, this was a veteran line with a stud rb, give our D a chance. Hopefully, we've been vanilla on defense holding something back for our super bowl!!!!
    Uh, both Jarvis and Edelman were stopped cold by Boston College last week.

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    Re: IOWA is not Kent St.

    Quote Originally Posted by BryceC View Post
    Had trouble? If you take out QB scrambles tailbacks gained only 55 yards on 27 rushes for a 2.04 average.



    I think we have a line problem in general and both TO's and special teams are bailing us out. It's great to force turnovers and it's great to get great play on special teams but I don't think it's something you can count on.
    I don't think you can take "QB Scambles" out of the mix, though. That's part of our running game at this point. I would agree we had trouble running the ball, but keep in mind, we were without our #1 running back.

    I'd say it's hard to get a handle on our running game, but considering how well we did through the air, I'm not overly concerned, as long as our pass blocking holds up.

    I do agree, though, that we do have a line problem on both sides of the ball. I'm more concerned about the D-Line than the O-Line, overall though.

    Quote Originally Posted by erikbj View Post
    Greene is better than Jarvis....and if ISU tackles like they did last night, Greene will have 200 yds and 3tds.

    However Iowa does not run a spread offense and that will help ISU's defense against the run and ISU can keep 7-8 guys in the box to stuff the run. Hopefully the secondary can keep the Hawks from breaking loose, if they can ISU should be 3-0 going to Vegas.
    The big problem we had last night was trying to both contain a great, mobile QB, and a great, agile, mobile RB. Greene isn't that, and either is Stanzi (or JC, but you'd be an idiot not to start Stanzi after last week). I think we will have less problem containing them than Kent State. That puts us back to the problem we had against SDSU, which was our interior D-Line, which is not spectacular.

    It'll be very interesting to watch how we play against Iowa.

    I think our O can certainly hang with theirs, no matter what they do to us, though, so long as we tie or win the turnover battle.
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    Re: IOWA is not Kent St.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    Uh, both Jarvis and Edelman were stopped cold by Boston College last week.
    These won't be the only guys that Boston College will stop cold this year. BC was knocking at the top last year and isn't likely to be a bottom dweller this year. Georgia Tech pulled out a win against BC, but actually put up fewer yards of total offense than Kent State did against them.

    Our defense isn't where it needs to be, but it's way too early to assume that we won't see improvements. It's more reasonable to assume at this point that over the duration of the season BC will prove to have a salty defense and Kent State a dangerous offense.

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    Re: IOWA is not Kent St.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    Uh, both Jarvis and Edelman were stopped cold by Boston College last week.

    That score is a little misleading. Kent State's biggest problem on offense is themselves (turnovers). In the BC game, Kent State had 3 turnovers and BC had none.

    ESPN - Boston College Eagles vs. Kent State Golden Flashes Box Score, August 30 2008 - NCAA College Football

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    Re: IOWA is not Kent St.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    Uh, both Jarvis and Edelman were stopped cold by Boston College last week.
    not really, jarvis averaged 4.6 a carry on them, but only got 11 carries. edelman was 10-14, but of the 4 incompletions 2 were INT's
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    Re: IOWA is not Kent St.

    After a days worth of research, I have concluded that Kent State University is not the University of Iowa. I have determined Kent State University is in Ohio and the University of Iowa is in Iowa. I will have more information on this subject after further research.

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    Re: IOWA is not Kent St.

    Quote Originally Posted by CyForPresident View Post
    After a days worth of research, I have concluded that Kent State University is not the University of Iowa. I have determined Kent State University is in Ohio and the University of Iowa is in Iowa. I will have more information on this subject after further research.
    Good to see you got that far with only one day under your belt. You are much further along then I.
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    Re: IOWA is not Kent St.

    A couple of the reasons that I am really encouraged, and I am tenuously thinking we will win the game this weekend are:

    -smart quarterback play....I really think both guys are quite a bit ahead of where Bret was last year with the mental aspect of the game.
    -punt unit....I absolutely love the formation that we use. Since we moved to the new formation where we place a snapper and six speed guys on the line, and the three large fellas in front of the punter I don't recall us giving up more than ten yards on a punt return. And, Brandtner is pretty adept at killing the ball inside the ten....people can say we were lucky that the kent state punt returner fumbled that ball, but we had six guys surrounding him on that play, so the worst outcome there was that our defense would start that series with them backed up at their own five yard line. I like it alot!

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    Re: IOWA is not Kent St.

    "Hopefully, we've been vanilla on defense holding something back for our super bowl"

    This was an ealier thread. STOP saying this!!! Iowa is NOT our super bowl. It is just another pre-conference game against an in-state rival. All games are important ....and if we do have a "superbowl" it is against conference rival Nebraska. Conference games are the most important by far.

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    Re: IOWA is not Kent St.

    The one thing that lets me sleep a little easier at night is the fact we have Chizik and staff preparing/implementing a game plan all week and on the other side you have Ferentz and staff.

    If out players follow the plan, I like our chances. Regardless, I do not expect a blow out either way. Too many questions to be answered for both teams.

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    Re: IOWA is not Kent St.

    Quote Originally Posted by HandSanitizer View Post
    The thing that worries me is that Kent State couldn't even score on Boston College which got beat by GT. Just saying we have a a Defensive Line problem and turnovers are bailing us out currently. We should improve though.

    Bingo...you deserve more green boxes for just mentioning the defensive line....

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    Re: IOWA is not Kent St.

    Quote Originally Posted by ketelmeister View Post
    Iowa will be tougher than Kent State. Bigger on both lines, faster and home field advantage. Anyone who thinks that game will be a cake walk has blinders on.
    Ketelmeister - i started this thread by saying this is not a bust on IOWA, it was simply to say our matchup against Greene is much better then Jarvis. I would not be surprised to see a lot of the freshman - i think his name is Jewell Hampton who is much more like Jarvis then is Greene. If we cannot tackle it won't matter, i was simply saying Jarvis is as close to Darren Sproles that we've played in a long time, and Jarvis had more yards rushing last year then the two headed senior monster running backs iowa had last year. Jarvis is a stud, elusive, jitterbug, whereas Greene is a straight ahead bull, and that can be trouble too. I just think our LB's do not bounce very well, they attack a hole and if the RB is there, it will be a collision.

    But your also right, home field advantage in Kinnick for Iowa State games has been disgusting in games of the past. Hope that changes.

    IMO whoever's OL controls the DL will win this game. I can see ISU passing more this week or running outside because this may be the toughest interior defense we will play this year. Those two tackles are tough and will be hard to contain. Our OL will have to play much better then last week, i hope AROB is ready to play. No knock on Scales or Harris, but they're no Bass or AROB......we need that element to compete in Iowa City.

    One item i noticed in the postgame, there must have been a typo....

    Did i actually see a 48 yard fg - we have hit the jackpot with Mahoney.....

    Can't wait to see the game this week, my wife and I will be visiting Kinnick for the first time.

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