OFFICIAL POST GAME THREAD -KU vs ISU

**singsing** · 10-04-2008, 03:22 PM

First game I've seen this season. The freshman are going to be really good. Darks, Johnson, and Johnson will all be All Big 12. Looks like we need help on the defensive line. Wouldn't mind seeing that 2 minute offense used throughout the game ( seemed like the team had better timing and didn't give KU time to set up all those blitz packages). All in all kinda what I expected. The team is young and played young. Look forward to watching them progress. Oh yeah, Thank you Gene for getting a scholarship kicker on board.

**Aclone** · 10-04-2008, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by superfan

Thoughts...

Another tough loss. However, let's look at this objectively. If at this point you don't think this team is light-years ahead of where they were last year, I don't know what you've been watching.

Rep to you. +1.

**Cyclones78227** · 10-04-2008, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

Actually, what's bugging me is the people who show a McCarney (/Walden/Criner/Duncan)-era mentalty. Kansas had only scored twice when people started moaning that we were going to lose 42-20. People called "game over" twice, before the Cyclones came back to score--and that's only the tip of the iceburg of the whining, the loser mentality.

Freakin' A, if you can't recognize that this team, these coaches are different, then you've got a serious problem. As far as I'm concerned, if you want to curl up in a ball, stick your head between your legs and kiss your *** good-bye, or run around like Chicken Little when an acorn hits you in the head crying The Sky is Falling, go ahead and do it, but turn in your Cyclone fan card while you're at it.

Or you can decide that you're going to change.

This team, these players, these coaches, deserve one hell of a lot better.

That was a great post.

The other thing that I saw in the game thread was people calling for Phillip Bates, and I wondered about it a couple of times as well. But I think that we saw the coaches turn the ball over to Austen, and will let him play through mistakes, instead of giving him the quick hook.

**jmeeksISU** · 10-04-2008, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by SpokaneCY

A win is a good game. A win for a program like us is a good game. It doesn't make us a good team. This was an entertaining game.... not a good game.

SpokaneCy, you've put it well. Everybody should be able to compete with everyone else on the first weekend of conference play. Everyone is reading too much into that #20 ranking. If Kansas loses a couple games and finishes unranked, it's not so much of a "good" game. Entertaining yes.

Hopefully Chizek expects more out of this team. A 20 point lead going into the second half should be good for a win.

**SpokaneCY** · 10-04-2008, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by jmeeksISU

SpokaneCy, you've put it well. Everybody should be able to compete with everyone else on the first weekend of conference play. Everyone is reading too much into that #20 ranking. If Kansas loses a couple games and finishes unranked, it's not so much of a "good" game. Entertaining yes.

Hopefully Chizek expects more out of this team. A 20 point lead going into the second half should be good for a win.

Hoping all fans can see how close we are. Chiz is the right guy and he's bringing in some new blood. Our future remains bright.

**EggMcClone** · 10-04-2008, 03:32 PM

Man, it's frustrating always coming up short in games like this. KU is good but they're not THAT good. Fortunately, there are positive signs and I'm hopeful that things will change soon but we could have had this one.

Maybe I'm alone here but I'm not big on Arnaud's mechanics. Doesn't it seem like he takes too much time releasing the ball and will overthrow guys a lot? Hopefully they can work on that.

Nice to see so many young guys making big plays. I'm hopeful things will get better but it's definitely frustrating right now.

**Aclone** · 10-04-2008, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by jmeeksISU

SpokaneCy, you've put it well. Everybody should be able to compete with everyone else on the first weekend of conference play. Everyone is reading too much into that #20 ranking. If Kansas loses a couple games and finishes unranked, it's not so much of a "good" game. Entertaining yes.

Yep, nothing quite like taking all credit for a good performance away from our team. Pull the rug right out from under 'em. "They weren't really that good". Pure nonsense. Whether they're rated #16 or not, this is still a quality Kansas team.

**bos** · 10-04-2008, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by PolkCityClone

and we are still Iowa State, land of playing close and losing.

But with better teams. Once we get over the hump, other teams can play close with us and lose.

**Aclone** · 10-04-2008, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by EggMcClone

Maybe I'm alone here but I'm not big on Arnaud's mechanics. Doesn't it seem like he takes too much time releasing the ball and will overthrow guys a lot? Hopefully they can work on that.

I'm baffled as to what you're seeing. 27of 44, with three drops, and I've always seen one heck of a quick release. Kansas put on a lot of pressure in the 2nd half.

**tec71** · 10-04-2008, 03:38 PM

I see people bashing recievers for drops on the last drive but to me appears that in that situation AA has one throw, the bullet regardless of where the recievers are on the field. Didn't we see this late in one of the other games. I'm interested in any intelligent discussion anyone might have on that issue.

We lost. Being close shows progress from year to year, but winning can change the momentum of a season.

**scubapohl1** · 10-04-2008, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Flag Guy

Consistency. We need consistency (nothing new there I guess)

We didn't have a "Good game" We had a "Great first half" and a good 2nd half of the 4th quarter.
3rd quarter was bad, and it made a difference.

Last week we had a good 2nd half, but the first half was terrible.

Consistency would change this program

No question.....

This is a great young team. They're just making a lot of mistakes. I hate dropping a game like this but there were a lot of positives.

**mwitt** · 10-04-2008, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

When the going got tough, we got back in the game. And were a heartbeat away from winning. This was a big step forward--just not an immense one.

The going got tough long before we decided to respond. If you told us before the game started that we would lose by 2, yes, most would have taken that.

If you would have told us before the game that we would allow 28 unanswered points and blow a 3 score lead, in our house, in one freaking quarter, then I think some people would be ****** off.

If you would have told us that we would have the ball with a chance to win at the end of the game, we would have open receivers on 3 plays, and not gain a yard, then I think some people would be ****** off.

For the record, I'm not ****** off. I think I've almost become immune to the groin kick that we fans receive more often than not. However, I certainly understand the frustration.