Enough Tiller Talk

**CrossCyed** · 10-15-2008, 01:39 PM

FWIW, Tiller was often better than Bates in practice.

**DaddyMac** · 10-15-2008, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by jaretac

When did I hear this talk before??

Tiller might be good, but have we not learned our lesson yet with Bates. This same talk circulated around when Bates came in and he didn't pan out to be that great at QB.

I'll believe it when I see him on the field and not before. Beware Cyclone fans, don't get drawn into the grass is always greener scenario.

As for the first post, being 2-10 means nothing, just like being 10-2 means nothing. There is more then one player on a football team. My high school won state in football and basketball in the same year, not one player played at the next level- the reverse can also be true.

Great post.

**IOWASTATE** · 10-15-2008, 02:35 PM

Jay Cutler is to Vanderbilt as Jerome Tiller is to ........

Great test question

BTW the answer is a probably a crappy team. see how it worked out for Cutler

**Flag Guy** · 10-15-2008, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by ISU BET

worst. post. ever.

Hmmm you haven't been reading enough lately. This post wasn't good, but no where near worth of the title "worst. post. ever." The problem with labeling things "worst post ever" is that it is completely over used, and this just further dilutes the already watered down insult of "Worst post ever" taking away the sting of the burn.

For further overusing the "worst. post. ever." burn I label your post, the worst post. Ever.

**CYVADER** · 10-15-2008, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Flag Guy

Hmmm you haven't been reading enough lately. This post wasn't good, but no where near worth of the title "worst. post. ever." The problem with labeling things "worst post ever" is that it is completely over used, and this just further dilutes the already watered down insult of "Worst post ever" taking away the sting of the burn.

For further overusing the "worst. post. ever." burn I label your post, the worst post. Ever.

and now i've gone crosseyed

**candg4ever** · 10-15-2008, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Bigguns

Tillers team was 2-8 in HS. That doesn't sound like the "second coming" to me he might be a good QB/Football player but he is not the guy you build your team around.

Obviously, you know much more than the coaching staff, all the recruiting services, and any/all sportswriters, (that last one isn't saying much). At least the aforementioned "experts", know more about Tiller than his team's record. Way to dive into your research, Sherlock!!

**candg4ever** · 10-15-2008, 03:24 PM

Tiller might be good, but have we not learned our lesson yet with Bates. This same talk circulated around when Bates came in and he didn't pan out to be that great at QB.

I don't recall a whole lot of talk about Bates being a great QB, just a great athlete, which is pretty much undeniable. I didn't think Bates really pushed AA for the top spot at any time, the coaching staff was just trying to get him in games at any cost.

I've never seen JT even take a snap, but I believe he will be more of a challenge for the starting spot the rest of this year than Bates ever really was.

**cycloneworld** · 10-15-2008, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Bigguns

Tillers team was 2-8 in HS. That doesn't sound like the "second coming" to me he might be a good QB/Football player but he is not the guy you build your team around.

Tiller threw for 1,600 yards and 12 touchdowns and ran for 770 yards and another 12 TDs as a senior in high school. In Texas. And was a 3-star recruit.

You are right. He sucks...

**Bigguns** · 10-15-2008, 03:28 PM

"You know nothing of the football team/program/other players."

I live in Ames, played football at ISU, know several players and attend practice regularly.

**Swanson10** · 10-15-2008, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Bigguns

"You know nothing of the football team/program/other players."

I live in Ames, played football at ISU, know several players and attend practice regularly.

Your profile page is going to blow up!

**bellzisu** · 10-15-2008, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Bigguns

"You know nothing of the football team/program/other players."

I live in Ames, played football at ISU, know several players and attend practice regularly.

Enjoy!!!

**Bigguns** · 10-15-2008, 03:35 PM

Just stating the facts. which is more than I can say all the Tiller worshipers out there. AA is going to be a great QB for ISU if given support and a chance.

**jaretac** · 10-15-2008, 03:37 PM

Can we just all agree that

A) the best for ISU is to have Tiller red-shirted for the rest of the season, otherwise he will only be here one year longer then AA. If he is as good as they say, I would like to see him here at least another 4 years.

B) to let Tiller prove himself to us without the added pressure to be the next coming, consequently a big let down if he doesn't fulfill.

C) to quite acting like hawk fans by always cheering for the backup.

Everyone agree? End of thread.

**trajanJ** · 10-15-2008, 03:41 PM

Arm strength will help him, but the key to his success will be his accuracy, how quick his release is and if he can read the defense. From looking at his video, he's not going to be a running qb in the Big 12.