Re: Big 12 North Continues to get beat up
I still believe that the show that the South is putting on this year isn't a because of the North's weakness, but how the best college football in the country is in the South this year. 4 teams in top 10 is just rediculous.
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jtwilson
We came within a field goad kick of winning the North 2 years in a row... wouldn't that qualify as "showing we belong"
How many coaching changes have there been in the conference since we were ranked as high as ninth in the country? I can't help but think there were a lot of people in the conference saying " WELL, if they can get it done at IOWA STATE what do we need to do differently?"
Go Cyclones :smile:
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jtwilson
We came within a field goad kick of winning the North 2 years in a row... wouldn't that qualify as "showing we belong"
That's not even a close comparison.
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ISUFan22
The entire Big 12 North should defect and form it's own conference.
:dull:
Didn't we have that once? It was called the Big 6 and became the Big 8. Then we got this brilliant idea to add 4 more teams and become the Big 12.
Remember that time ISU was good? Those were the days.
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Lenny25
That's not even a close comparison.
Do explain, Id say that, while its becoming a distant memory in a world of what have you done lately, I fail to see how thats not even close of a comparison.....:skeptical:
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Cyclonick182
Do explain, Id say that, while its becoming a distant memory in a world of what have you done lately, I fail to see how thats not even close of a comparison.....:skeptical:
When the conversation and point of the post is regarding how dominant the South is over the North, us almost being the prettiest ugly girl (winning the north) means nothing.
BTW, we've never...EVER been the prettiest ugly girl.
I know ISUFan22 says it in jest, but I think the North defecting would be a great idea.
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CLONE2THEBONE
I know ISUFan22 says it in jest, but I think the North defecting would be a great idea.
No, it's still as silly of an idea as it was last week when you brought it up...
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jbhtexas
No, it's still as silly of an idea as it was last week when you brought it up...
Yes, because nothing is less silly than doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
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Originally Posted by
jbhtexas
No, it's still as silly of an idea as it was last week when you brought it up...
I'd argue this new idea is even more silly. The entire division dropping conference? Really? If we "can't compete" with them, why would we want them dropping out with us?
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Cyclone62
I'd argue this new idea is even more silly. The entire division dropping conference? Really? If we "can't compete" with them, why would we want them dropping out with us?
We can compete in the north every decade or so...the south, never in a million years.
Let's remove the south from the equation all together, so that the every 10 years or so we actually compete to win the north, it won't mean getting our ***** handed to us by a south team in the championship.
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CLONE2THEBONE
We can compete in the north every decade or so...the south, never in a million years.
Let's remove the south from the equation all together, so that the every 10 years or so we actually compete to win the north, it won't mean getting our ***** handed to us by a south team in the championship.
I dont understand at all why people would want to leave the Big XII. Theres absolutely nothing good that would come to ISU other than wins over poor teams. I dont know about you or anyone else, but Id rather play with(and lose to as it has been this year) the big boys, than beat on the little girls, but maybe thats just me.
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Originally Posted by
CLONE2THEBONE
We can compete in the north every decade or so...the south, never in a million years.
Let's remove the south from the equation all together, so that the every 10 years or so we actually compete to win the north, it won't mean getting our ***** handed to us by a south team in the championship.
Do you think ISU would have 10 of its games televised this year if the north teams formed their own conference? Like I said in another thread, I'd rather watch a crappy ISU team lose everyone of its games on TV than not be able to watch them at all. I don't know if you realize how many ISU fans live out of the state. If ISU ever drops into a lower conference, they will lose at least half of their fanbase. No television exposure means a lot fewer fans. That alone gives me confidence that it will never happen and thus should never be brought up again.
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Cyclonick182
I dont understand at all why people would want to leave the Big XII. Theres absolutely nothing good that would come to ISU other than wins over poor teams. I dont know about you or anyone else, but Id rather play with(and lose to as it has been this year) the big boys, than beat on the little girls, but maybe thats just me.
It's not just you. The vast majority of Cyclone fans would rather play in a conference in which they have no chance of competing, in exchange for the perceived prestige that comes with being a member of that conference, even as the perenial cellar dwellar.
Why would it have to be wins over poor teams? Are all the teams in the MAC poor? Clearly, not. We'd have to improve to compete there. What's that say about our chances for success against the OK's and Texas teams?
If the best teams of the MAC are little girls, what are we?
We lost to a UNLV team that followed up their victory over us with a loss to Nevada-Reno in Vegas. I know, I know, it's probably Nevada-Reno's superbowl.
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Can we still win the North if we win our last three games? No, it looks like 4 wins could take it all: the winner of the Kansas/Missouri game. Nebraska might win it with 4 wins also if Missouri loses all three. The Kansas Nebraska game is big for them.
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Wesley
Can we still win the North if we win our last three games?
No. Mizzou and KU each have 3 wins and they still haven't played each other. The best ISU can do is tie for 2nd place with 3 wins.