Should we have another rivalry game?

**MontyBurns** · 11-04-2008, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by LivntheCyLife

I can take it or leave it with having a trophy though. New trophies seem kind of forced.

New trophies do seem forced. But old trophies are always cool. And the only way to get an old trophy is to start it as a new one, the sooner the better.

**Erik4Cy** · 11-04-2008, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by MontyBurns

New trophies do seem forced. But old trophies are always cool. And the only way to get an old trophy is to start it as a new one, the sooner the better.

very good point, but also some of the best trophies are ones that have weird, sometimes wacky stories behind them, so sometimes these things can't be forced to happen. sometimes rivalries just sorta emerge for any number of reasons. I think one of my fav's is Illibuck, I mean seriously, in the beginning they played for an ACTUAL turtle!!!

The Telephone trophy is one of the best ones I think hardly anyone outside the big 12 knows about. Weird story with the lines getting crossed and being able to hear our opponent's playcalls - just imagine if that were to happen in today's day and age/technology

**MontyBurns** · 11-04-2008, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by isucyclone4

very good point, but also some of the best trophies are ones that have weird, sometimes wacky stories behind them, so sometimes these things can't be forced to happen. sometimes rivalries just sorta emerge for any number of reasons. I think one of my fav's is Illibuck, I mean seriously, in the beginning they played for an ACTUAL turtle!!!

The Telephone trophy is one of the best ones I think hardly anyone outside the big 12 knows about. Weird story with the lines getting crossed and being able to hear our opponent's playcalls - just imagine if that were to happen in today's day and age/technology

Playing for an actual turtle is not that different from Iowa/Minnesota's game for Floyd of Rosedale; the first game was for an actual pig.

The only thing I don't like about the Telephone Trophy is that nobody knows about it, and not just outside of the Big 12. I know of ISU fans who only vaguely have heard of it and don't even know that it is between ISU/Missouri. I am guessing the majority of Big 12 fans not from our two schools have never heard of the thing.

We could call the ISU/KSU game the Ethanol Cup (I like it) and play for an actual barrel of ethanol in KC....maybe later replaced by a trophy. And nothing says it has to be limited to football, there could be a travelling trophy for every sport with an annual Ethanol Cup Champion.

**cy2win** · 11-05-2008, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by throwittoblythe

I think the "rivalry" part of the Mizzou game should be dropped altogether. No one cares. I doubt the words "telephone trophy" have been mentioned in a coach's pregame speech in the last 10 years.

Although the Big12 seems to think there is a bit of rivalry because they have scheduled this game as both teams' second to last game through the 2015 season. Mizzou's last game is with KU, which is their biggest rival, but to me, placing our game after the K-State game and before the KU game seems like there is some rivalry statement there.

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**Irresponsible** · 11-05-2008, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by MontyBurns

We could call the ISU/KSU game the Ethanol Cup (I like it) and play for an actual barrel of ethanol in KC....

If this was a barrel of ethanol before it was de-natured...

**theshadow** · 11-05-2008, 12:36 AM

Call it the Cereal Bowl and get Chex as the presenting sponsor.

**SC Cy** · 11-05-2008, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by CyBobby

Grate minds think alike Jake...I was just thinking the same thing..Play K-State the last game of the year in Kansas City and call it the AG Bowl...I really like the idea and I think that K-State and the big 12 would go along with the idea...

Ah yes...every inner-city kid would be racing to Ames to be a part of the event!

**CycloneWarrior** · 11-05-2008, 01:50 AM

I think one with Kansas would be cool. We always compete in basketball and football is close most of the time minus the last couple years

**Balrog** · 11-05-2008, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by cardinal&gold

Why not Texas? We are the school furthest north in the Big 12, they are the furthest south. We are the poorest school in the Big 12, they are the richest. We have no tradition of success, they have immense tradition. We could call it the Disparity Bowl.

**flander1649** · 11-06-2008, 01:47 PM

A rivalry against KSU wouldn't be bad since they are the only time in the Big 12 that ISU has a winning record against.

**Flag Guy** · 11-06-2008, 01:53 PM

KSU seems more like a rival to me than Kansas would... we could maybe even play off of the Land Grant history (We were the first school to accept the terms of the Morril act - they were the first to open under it I believe)

However starting a rivalry for the sake of having one seems rather artificial and stupid. I'm all for having an in-conference rival, but drawing a team out of the hat and saying "Hey, lets be rivals" just doesn't do it for me

**isufbcurt** · 11-06-2008, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by throwittoblythe

I think the "rivalry" part of the Mizzou game should be dropped altogether. No one cares. I doubt the words "telephone trophy" have been mentioned in a coach's pregame speech in the last 10 years.

Wrong. Not only were they mentioned in the pregame speech, keeping all trophies at ISU was a goal determined in 2 a days.