Officiating Blunder at end of CU game

**ISUFan22** · 11-10-2008, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Steve

If he would have had the Giant's OL, it would have worked out fine for him. There's a little thing called personnel that makes every situation different. How can so many people forget the number of times over the past several years that our OL has been unable to get a push on the LOS?

Or the number of times this year we've failed to do so. Didn't we have a failed goal line stand against Kent State? I'm seriously asking because that's the one game I didn't see.

**CloneCubbie** · 11-10-2008, 10:02 AM

Would have far rather lost the game with a QB sneak, hell, even a draw, old school fb dive, anything except for an option... it's rare even in a game that we get a yard with the option.

It reminds me of the okie state game. We were running all over the place, then we pull out some stupid double reverse trying to get fancy and screw it up... stick with what works. Pound it up the middle, if our line can't get a one foot push, then we deserve to lose the game and I'll go away. Stupid call, end of story.

**Erik4Cy** · 11-10-2008, 10:03 AM

We're not an option team.

**cybsball20** · 11-10-2008, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by isucyclone4

We're not an option team.

So we should have gone with a pass? We aren't a running team either...

**DaddyMac** · 11-10-2008, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

So we should have gone with a pass? We aren't a running team either...

We had 188 yards rushing Sat. IMO, we were controlling the LOS in that aspect of the game quite well. I don't understand in such a situation why, when you need about 18 inches, you take the ball off the line 6 yards? Nothing about that makes sense to me. I was looking for the sneak but would have preferred to have Scales in there with our FB lead.

Regardless, we're losing our minds over one play folks. The loss of this game cannot be laid at the feet of the offense. We just aren't going to outgun many teams and the fact that we gave up 4 TDs in the second half is where the problems lie.

Our inability to a) get pressure b) get pressure even when blitzing c) can't stick with a receiver for more than 3 seconds, if we're with him from the snap ... are problems #1, 2 and 3 right now. Most of what's wrong with the '08 Clones is on THAT side of the ball. Not the offense.

Maybe McFarland made some gaffs. Maybe. But Bolt really needs to get his and his crews' act together ASAP.

**ISUFan22** · 11-10-2008, 10:18 AM

So many posts quickly went right to the play, instead of the debacle that was us technically not even getting the play off in time. If that's a reviewable play (not sure it is), it doesn't matter if we score up the gut or on the option - it would not have counted.

**CyinCo** · 11-10-2008, 10:20 AM

If you can't get one yard of push from your offense line with the game on the line, something is wrong. Those guys are big and strong. You get them in the huddle tell them "The game is on you guys"...1 yard!

Ryan Kock was a good thing.

**StLouisClone** · 11-10-2008, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by DaddyMac

Our inability to a) get pressure b) get pressure even when blitzing c) can't stick with a receiver for more than 3 seconds, if we're with him from the snap ... are problems #1, 2 and 3 right now. Most of what's wrong with the '08 Clones is on THAT side of the ball. Not the offense.

Maybe McFarland made some gaffs. Maybe. But Bolt really needs to get his and his crews' act together ASAP.

What really makes it frustrating is that our defense has played very well at times. My Mizzou friends saw the highlights of Colorado's comeback in the 4th quarter and they couldn't believe how wide open Colorado's receivers were. I don't care how much pressure the defensive line is getting. There is no excuse for guys getting that open. I have a feeling the redshirt on Dustin Land would have been pulled if ISU had more to play for.

**DaddyMac** · 11-10-2008, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by StLouisClone

What really makes it frustrating is that our defense has played very well at times. My Mizzou friends saw the highlights of Colorado's comeback in the 4th quarter and they couldn't believe how wide open Colorado's receivers were. I don't care how much pressure the defensive line is getting. There is no excuse for guys getting that open. I have a feeling the redshirt on Dustin Land would have been pulled if ISU had more to play for.

I agree to a point. You can't expect the secondary to cover guys for extended periods of time. At some point, we have to pressure the QB - and didn't.

But yes - we had bad, bad, bad coverages at times where guys not only got open, but a few times were never covered to start with.

And several of those times, the spaces came because we blitzed off the corner or with one of our OLBs and STILL didn't get pressure.

**Flag Guy** · 11-10-2008, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by CyinCo

Ryan Kock was a good thing.

We really could have used him Saturday

**brianhos** · 11-10-2008, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by bawbie

Isn't there some rule about running 5 seconds off the clock for an offensive penalty in the final minute?

Or am I just imagining that?

It was an NFL rule for a while.

**Go2Guy** · 11-10-2008, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

So many posts quickly went right to the play, instead of the debacle that was us technically not even getting the play off in time. .

It kills me how many times, in deep red-zone, that we've had problems getting in a play. It started with the Iowa game, when we were called twice for delay of game inside their 15 and has continued almost every game this season.

It's like when we get down there, a brain freeze develops and all of a sudden we don't know what play to call.

**cyfyi** · 11-10-2008, 11:13 AM

It was just a bad play call.

**Steve** · 11-10-2008, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Go2Guy

It kills me how many times, in deep red-zone, that we've had problems getting in a play. It started with the Iowa game, when we were called twice for delay of game inside their 15 and has continued almost every game this season.

It's like when we get down there, a brain freeze develops and all of a sudden we don't know what play to call.

I wouldn't mind seeing a rule change that could improve the quality of football in the red zone. The defense already gets an advantage from the compressed field so why make it so difficult for the offense to get the desired personnel in the game.

One option could be to add 5 seconds to the play clock when a team gets into the red zone. It would not extend the game much and would likely result in more TD's and fewer FG attempts.

A better option might be to allow the team sideline to move further down the field to follow the action. Players could sub in and out easier without having to run the extra 25 yards or so back and forth.

**mwitt** · 11-10-2008, 12:24 PM

The referees botched a pretty bad intentional grounding that would have been on CU earlier in the game, too. Not a good officiated game, but it didn't cost us a win.