The best thing about Iowa beating Minnesota...

**MontyBurns** · 11-23-2008, 05:37 PM

...is that we won't have the weekly "we should have hired Tim Brewster" thread starting.

On the other hand, Cincinnati is probably headed to a BCS bowl.

**bellzisu** · 11-23-2008, 05:40 PM

The best thing about Iowa beating Minnesota is, at least we will have 20 useless threads about it.

Considering we are more obsessed with them and not actual ISU sports....

Sorry couldn't resist.

**cyclonez7** · 11-23-2008, 05:42 PM

We should have hired Brian Kelly, looks like he might go to a BCS bowl... /end sarcasm

**twojman** · 11-23-2008, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by cyclonez7

We should have hired Brian Kelly, looks like he might go to a BCS bowl... /end sarcasm

Yeah, we would have been undefeated with Kelly.

Wasn't he handed the reigns of a pretty good team in what is traditionally the worst BCS conference?

**gocubs2118** · 11-23-2008, 05:52 PM

And Jim Harbaugh led Stanford to 5 wins when they were supposed to be pretty bad.

**Al_4_State** · 11-23-2008, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by twojman

Yeah, we would have been undefeated with Kelly.

Wasn't he handed the reigns of a pretty good team in what is traditionally the worst BCS conference?

Yes, and yes. Although, this year I don't see much difference between the Big East, ACC, and Big 10 (outside of Penn St.). He's still playing with Dantonio's guys, and we can see that Dantonio is doing well. That said, he's obviously a good coach, and the other thing that makes him better than Chizik RIGHT NOW (read, not necessarily in the long run) is previous head coaching experience...

**joefrog** · 11-23-2008, 06:16 PM

There are also reports of Kelly in line for some other jobs. He is a stepping-stone guy. He would not have been a good fit at ISU. Brewster, who knows really. Doubt Minnesota was really much better than ISU, and they were not in as bad of shape.

I really like GC and hope he succeeds at ISU and stays a long time.

**dustinal** · 11-23-2008, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by gocubs2118

And Jim Harbaugh led Stanford to 5 wins when they were supposed to be pretty bad.

In the Pac freaking 10.

**everyyard** · 11-23-2008, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by MontyBurns

...is that we won't have the weekly "we should have hired Tim Brewster" thread starting.

On the other hand, Cincinnati is probably headed to a BCS bowl.

on the other hand cinci is probably easier to recruit to, is in a city, and plays against easier competition for the most part. apples to oranges. If you think Kelly would be doing much better than chizik at isu you are dreaming. Plus he is likely gone after this season so that wouldn't have been great either.

**Aclone** · 11-23-2008, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by MontyBurns

On the other hand, Cincinnati is probably headed to a BCS bowl.

What, like Dantonio left an empty cupboard?

**Wesley** · 11-23-2008, 06:52 PM

All that aside we had two wins in year two and four in a row over two years. And we beat Iowa without scoring a touchdown!

**cygrads** · 11-23-2008, 06:55 PM

I must admit I was hoping we would hire Kelly for a few of reasons 1) he has been a head coach 2) he was offensive minded 3) he would bring a complete staff on day one and 4) he had won wherever he has been.

Don't get me wrong I want GC to succeed like none other but when we hired him I thought great another D-coordinator.

Coaching makes a huge difference no matter where you are - good coaches get it done - I hope GC is that coach.

**nj829** · 11-23-2008, 06:57 PM

Wasn't Brian Kelly's first game with Cincy a bowl game in 2006? He took over a good team already, no assembly required, hence the reason Dantonio is at Michigan State.

**mplscyclone** · 11-24-2008, 12:07 AM

Kelly walked into a good situation. He's able to build a good program at the mid-major level; it's yet to be seen if he can at the BCS level.

I don't regret not hiring him though. He's in the conversation for promotions to Tennessee. It would've been bad for this program to have a coach gunning for a new job and not being committed to the program.

Also, I don't really see anything that would make me believe that any coach (that had a realistic chance of coming here) would've had us BCS eligible or done a whole lot better than Chizik. Perhaps I'm wrong, but time will tell.

**TarHeelHawk** · 11-24-2008, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by MontyBurns

...is that we won't have the weekly "we should have hired Tim Brewster" thread starting.

On the other hand, Cincinnati is probably headed to a BCS bowl.

Please. I'm not trying to flame, but if ISU was 7-5 right now, Clone fans would be out of their minds with joy. However they got there, the goofs are still 7-5, and Brewster started with just as bare a cupboard as Chiz did.