Asst. evalution

[ISUFan22]

How many defenses are there that really defend the spread well?

Not a ton - but any team that can pressure the QB can. The most important thing in defending a spread offense, or any other pass-happy team - is QB pressure. People will think it's coverage - but it's really up front (see OU vs Tech 2008)

I'd bet we could've played with an extra defender or two in the secondary and still got diced up. Really - I seriously believe that.

Even against some of the better secondary groups in CFB - if no one is pressuring the QB - eventually someone will get open.

[cybsball20]

I think it's a combo of pressure on the QB and disrupting the timing. You need to bump the receivers and get them off thier routes. Unfortunately you really can't do that when your safeties are terrible.

[Wesley]

We have not had great pressure up front since Nick Leaders of Millard North graduated. Time to find a nose tackle with some wwwhhhhooommmppp. Nick was always shoving the center backwards into the qb.

[Wesley]

I think it's a combo of pressure on the QB and disrupting the timing. You need to bump the receivers and get them off thier routes. Unfortunately you really can't do that when your safeties are terrible.

Or when they start ten yards off them. Too late to bump them then.

[cybsball20]

Or when they start ten yards off them.

I think there are two reasons we had to do that.

1. Our true freshman corners were not strong enough yet to get an effective bump on a big 12 receiver. A year of S&C should help.

2. Our safeties, or lack of safeties...

[dunar]

Colorado made a change at QB and it all went downhill from there. I don't know enough about it to know if we changed our defensive scheme when they made the QB change but it was like a switch went on for CU.

Reminded me of Mizzou '05 - we had Brad Smith contained and shut down, he gets hurt, and they bring in this new guy (Daniel) that torched us... Of course we gave up points early in that game that we shouldn't have (turnovers.) Possibly part of the week's prep and just not enough time to get ready for all options that the opposing offense has? I don't believe that's a good excuse, but if there is time taken away from schemes to cover fundamentals it could be a contributing factor.

[bmuff]

You could have Champ Bailey, and all the hall of famer CB's and DB's you can think of playing for us and they wouldn't be able to cover for 8 seconds while the opposing QB stands back in the pocket with no pressure.

I imagine having a Champ Bailey or two would have won us about three more games. Yeah, the pass rush sucked, but at times, DBs were nowhere near the WRs.

You can be lacking talent and still be within 5 yards of the WR. To me, either the players are too dumb to learn the defense or the coaches are poor at communicating it to them. What other reason could there be for letting guys run wide open through the secondary? I hope that it is just inexperience and learning new schemes. But if veterans like Hunley and James Smith can't learn it in two years, is it really a viable college defensive scheme? Maybe the Tampa 2 is too tough of a defense to learn in the amount of time that college players are able to contribute.

[Steve]

We have not had great pressure up front since Nick Leaders of Millard North graduated. Time to find a nose tackle with some wwwhhhhooommmppp. Nick was always shoving the center backwards into the qb.

Wildcats don't like to be called ponies. Nick led Millard West to the state championship.

[IOWASTATE]

Our safeties really were that bad, Koonz is a fine coach and has been with Chiz since his time as a GA. You can show somebody where they need to be everyday but theres not a whole lot you can do when that person cant think on their feet in a game situation. The DB coaches were fine. The safety position should be addition by subtraction this year.

[clonecard]

undersized, underskilled, underwhatever.......the tackling problem is clearly coaching. Unless/until that issue is fixed, we wont stop any B-12 offense.

[mkadl]

I think it's a combo of pressure on the QB and disrupting the timing. You need to bump the receivers and get them off thier routes. Unfortunately you really can't do that when your safeties are terrible.

Cysball this is not directed at you. Just using your post as a common response on this board. My question to everyone is, "is the cupboard that bare?" And if it is /was what expectation do we have of our incoming players next year as 1st year starters?

[cybsball20]

Cysball this is not directed at you. Just using your post as a common response on this board. My question to everyone is, "is the cupboard that bare?" And if it is /was what expectation do we have of our incoming players next year as 1st year starters?

I'll use a post I put in another thread...

Defensive Line recruiting
2006
Austin AlburtisDE6-22604.75.4 Dallas, TX
Collins EbohDE6-4250-- Mason City, IA
Nate FrereDT6-22705.15.4 Muscatine, IA
Patrick NealDE6-02254.755.4West Des Moines, IA
John RichardsonDT6-12454.615.3Humble, TX
2005
Stephon DaleDE6-3230-5.0 Fort Myers, FL
Eric SchultzDE6-52254.915.3 Beaver Dam, WI
Thomas PattonDE6-42804.8- San Francisco, CA
John MachadoDE6-32404.7- Fulton, MS
Stephon DaleDE6-3230-5.0 Fort Myers, FL

How many guys there are solid, Big XII starting defensive linemen? How many are playing?

As far as Big XII quality players on the DL, I would say the cupboard was pretty bare...

[CyCloned]

I'll use a post I put in another thread...



As far as Big XII quality players on the DL, I would say the cupboard was pretty bare...

Not a real scary group there in terms of tackles. Still the DB play this year was inexcussable. CU scored 4 TDs and a two point conversion where the guys were absolutely all alone. That just can't happen.

[CrossCyed]

Our safeties really were that bad, Koonz is a fine coach and has been with Chiz since his time as a GA. You can show somebody where they need to be everyday but theres not a whole lot you can do when that person cant think on their feet in a game situation. The DB coaches were fine. The safety position should be addition by subtraction this year.

Exactly. This is one of the reasons why we're bringing in at least one JUCO safety.

The defense is gonna look bad in that little triangle of doom created by the MLB and safeties, because none of them are too awesome at pass coverage.

[PolkCityClone]

Wasn't K Banks a juco. He got burned as much as anyone.