Congrats to Coach McCarney - He's Earned It

**cygrads** · 12-08-2008, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by huskerman

horrible post imo. dan mccarney is one of the, if not, most successful coaches in ISU history. wow thats just a bad post.

I hate it when I have to agree with a Husker - I don't understand the hatered for Mac - let it go already!!!!!

**GeronimusClone** · 12-08-2008, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by cygrads

I hate it when I have to agree with a Husker - I don't understand the hatered for Mac - let it go already!!!!!

Mac will go down as one of the greatest, but he peaked and wasn't continuing the upward climb at ISU. No hatred here for Mac, but am glad he moved on and will someday be at a better head job anyway. Hats off to Florida and Mac.

**URBCLONE** · 12-08-2008, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Clonefan32

Good for him...I am sure he would rather be taking teams to mid-level bowls as a head coach but who knows. All of you Mac haters need to get over it, the guy gave alot to the University and to not wish him the best is ridiculous.

It is a lot easier for the so-called haters to get over it when there aren't nearly weekly posts extolling the virtues of the guy.

**Cardinal&Gold11** · 12-08-2008, 11:23 AM

Good for him!

**Tornado man** · 12-08-2008, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by URBCLONE

It is a lot easier for the so-called haters to get over it when there aren't nearly weekly posts extolling the virtues of the guy.

The only reason for that is the state of our program now. If we were on the upswing, no one would give a **** about Dan McCarney. But we've gotten worse.

**CloneFan65** · 12-08-2008, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by GeronimusClone

Mac will go down as one of the greatest, but he peaked and wasn't continuing the upward climb at ISU. No hatred here for Mac, but am glad he moved on and will someday be at a better head job anyway. Hats off to Florida and Mac.

You don't understand. You can't have it both ways. Here on Cyclone Fanatic you either believe McCarney was the greatest head football coach in history and would currently have ISU in a BCS bowl game, or you believe that McCarney can't tell a quarterback from a nickelback, and as the D-line coach at Florida is really just the waterboy. There is no inbetween.

**URBCLONE** · 12-08-2008, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Tornado man

The only reason for that is the state of our program now. If we were on the upswing, no one would give a **** about Dan McCarney. But we've gotten worse.

Perhaps. But the '06 season was not exactly a banner year either. Four wins that just as easily could have been four losses. Not close in any of the other games. To be consistent, I am on board with Gene for the next 2-3 years but he has to produce. Exactly what I was saying about DM.

**Tornado man** · 12-08-2008, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by URBCLONE

Perhaps. But the '06 season was not exactly a banner year either. Four wins that just as easily could have been four losses. Not close in any of the other games. To be consistent, I am on board with Gene for the next 2-3 years but he has to produce. Exactly what I was saying about DM.

Dan is remembered fondly (A) because of the guy he was, but much more because (B) we aren't winning, and fans naturally recall the "good 'ole days," if you can call them that.
This time of year is especially painful for teams sitting home, because there are so many bowls for Big XII teams. We used to go under Dan, and fans remember.

**URBCLONE** · 12-08-2008, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Tornado man

Dan is remembered fondly (A) because of the guy he was, but much more because (B) we aren't winning, and fans naturally recall the "good 'ole days," if you can call them that.
This time of year is especially painful for teams sitting home, because there are so many bowls for Big XII teams. We used to go under Dan, and fans remember.

Can't argue with that. It is MUCH better to go to any bowl than to be sitting home.

**Go2Guy** · 12-08-2008, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by CloneFan65

You don't understand. You can't have it both ways. Here on Cyclone Fanatic you either believe McCarney was the greatest head football coach in history and would currently have ISU in a BCS bowl game, or you believe that McCarney can't tell a quarterback from a nickelback, and as the D-line coach at Florida is really just the waterboy. There is no inbetween.

I'm on the side that says he was one of our most successful coaches in history.....and it pains me to think our most successful coach couldn't win even 40% of the games he coached.

**jdoggivjc** · 12-08-2008, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by URBCLONE

Can't argue with that. It is MUCH better to go to any bowl than to be sitting home.

I'm willing to bet at least half of the fans out there would argue that sitting at home is better than playing Boise St in their home stadium for a bowl...

**CyGuy33** · 12-08-2008, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by cyclonenum1

McCarney is just along for the ride.

Florida is in the hunt for a National Championship darned near every year (this is their second BCS Title Game in the last 4 years). They have a super head coach in Meyer and a great DC in Charlie Strong. The D-line coach certainly has some impact but you take away McCarney and put someone else in that slot and I doubt the outcome of this season is any different.

I am sick of the McCarney fawning!

So at Iowa State if we lose, it's the coordinators and assistants fault, GC can do no wrong.

But at Florida if they win all the credit goes to the Head Coach. The Assistant Head Coach gets no credit for that?

Good to know.

**CTTB78** · 12-08-2008, 12:05 PM

Other than ego, why wouldn't Dan just enjoy the Iowa State millions he made, stay out the fray as a position coach, and bask in the Florida sun?

**URBCLONE** · 12-08-2008, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

I'm willing to bet at least half of the fans out there would argue that sitting at home is better than playing Boise St in their home stadium for a bowl...

Too funny.

Was just talking to my son about that over the weekend. Told him I didn't like BSU because of the blue turf and told him the story of the bowl game.

**CloneFan65** · 12-08-2008, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Go2Guy

I'm on the side that says he was one of our most successful coaches in history.....and it pains me to think our most successful coach couldn't win even 40% of the games he coached.

I'm with you. Coach Mac always handled himself with class and represented the University well. He built up the program to a point where they were competing for a bowl game every year (which is saying something for ISU), but at the same time I was excited about the coaching change, and I'm still optimistic Chizik will turn things around even though his first couple years have been rough.