Head Coach

**dunar** · 12-13-2008, 08:46 AM

Loyal to coordinators? Yep. ISU? Not always. Why do so few remember he went job hunting too? TCU in 2000? Anyone? That is part of the coaching ladder, always looking for the next, higher rung.

**CyBobby** · 12-13-2008, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by gocubs2118

The next head coach HAS to have prior coaching experience. Thats one of the biggest problems I had with the Chizik hire.

I agree that previous head coaching experience is a must for our next football coach..

Let some other school do the ON THE JOB TRAINING.. Then we will just hire the guy to take us to the next level!!

I for one am tired of two things with the ISU Athletic Dept...On the job training of head football coaches that take 3-4-5 years and then if they suceed they leave for greener pastures!!

The other thing is why do we put up with a basketball program that cant beat Drake a school a quarter of ISU's size!!!

**dosry5** · 12-13-2008, 08:46 AM

Thank goodness miller is in here to weigh in. We've dearly missed his unbiased and rational reasoning...

**cybsball20** · 12-13-2008, 08:46 AM

If Dan wouldn't have thrown a goose egg his last two recruiting classes then I might agree but as soon as Pollard was hired Dan saw the writing on the wall and recruiting dropped off...

**cybsball20** · 12-13-2008, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by dunar

Loyal to coordinators? Yep. ISU? Not always. Why do so few remember he went job hunting too? TCU in 2000? Anyone? That is part of the coaching ladder, always looking for the next, higher rung.

Yeah, McCarney did his fair share of interviewing...

**ISUChippewa** · 12-13-2008, 08:47 AM

No, if he had a placekicker, he would still be here today.

Maybe, but if a coach can't recruit a halfway decent Division I kicker, than maybe he shouldn't be a head coach.

**goldmember** · 12-13-2008, 08:48 AM

No. Any coach who sits on 3 timeouts, 2 mins on the clock and plays for OT on the road with a BT North title on the line will never get my vote. Also, the talent level on the team before Chizik got here was pathetic. Patterson from TCU has my vote.

**CyBobby** · 12-13-2008, 08:53 AM

I would rather have Gary Patterson of tcu as the next head coach...Patterson is from Kansas State and knows the big 12 conference and can recruit the state of Texas!!

The next hire just mite be Jamie's last the way this athletic department is going rite now in the 2 major sports aka the only sports that make money!!

**clonedude** · 12-13-2008, 08:54 AM

We HAVE to go after Turner Gill big time IMO.

I don't want another coordinator taking this job... period. And I don't want someone that is used to coaching all 4 and 5 star athletes... and doesn't have experience taking average talent further than they should.

Turner Gill fits the mold. He gets more out of average talent than anyone in the country IMO. Go get him JP!!!

**erikbj** · 12-13-2008, 08:56 AM

Why would Patterson want to come here? He has opportunities to take better jobs - Gill is probably more possible.

**JonDMiller** · 12-13-2008, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by dosry5

Thank goodness miller is in here to weigh in. We've dearly missed his unbiased and rational reasoning...

It would be easy to rail on ISU every day on the radio. It would probably cement a place in Hawkeye lore for me.

But I like the vast majority of the folks in Ames, and on this site. I am not going to do it.

And like many of you, this thing is baffling to me, its arguably the biggest sports story in the state of Iowa this year, one of my jobs is to focus on sports in this state, and that's what I do.

I think bringing McCarney back would be awesome. I know some will disagree with that, and I understand their rationale.

**GrimesCy** · 12-13-2008, 08:59 AM

I just cant believe this could get any worse. What have we done as loyal fans to deserve this? If Chizik doesnt get the job at Auburn.....S#%* will hit the fan with the donors, season ticket sales, fanbase, etc....

**gocubs2118** · 12-13-2008, 08:59 AM

Tyrone Willingham or Tommy Tubberville.

**iowajazz** · 12-13-2008, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by clonedude

We HAVE to go after Turner Gill big time IMO.

I don't want another coordinator taking this job... period. And I don't want someone that is used to coaching all 4 and 5 star athletes... and doesn't have experience taking average talent further than they should.

Turner Gill fits the mold. He gets more out of average talent than anyone in the country IMO. Go get him JP!!!

I agree with this entirely. He is a perfect fit. He has taken a program that was a mess and made it a conference contender. He has a Midwest background, he has name recognition, and it would get the fan base fired up. The upside for him is that the program has nowhere to go but up.

**erikbj** · 12-13-2008, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by JonDMiller

It would be easy to rail on ISU every day on the radio. It would probably cement a place in Hawkeye lore for me.

But I like the vast majority of the folks in Ames, and on this site. I am not going to do it.

And like many of you, this thing is baffling to me, its arguably the biggest sports story in the state of Iowa this year, one of my jobs is to focus on sports in this state, and that's what I do.

I think bringing McCarney back would be awesome. I know some will disagree with that, and I understand their rationale.

John, I do agree with a lot you say - but that McCarney comment had hawkeye blinders on. Any ISu fan that wants this program to go anywhere wants someone else - we have spent the better part of 2 decades with MAC and appreciate what he did here, but it is time to move on.

If MAC was the answer for our football problems, would have brought back Johnny Orr to replace McD last year, at least we would win our home games.