College Football Live Espn-Chizik

**CYKOFAN** · 12-15-2008, 02:37 PM

Gill could go from the Mac to the Big 12 and make 5 times what he's paid at Buffalo and that would be a lateral move? That espn analyst just showed how truly clueless he is.

**Palmer** · 12-15-2008, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by acrozier22

He's an adult and is intelligent enough to make a better decision than that.

you can stand up and shout this when he's catching td's next fall.

**Lastplace** · 12-15-2008, 02:39 PM

Pat Forde and Van Pelt thought it was a JOKE they hired Chizik. He will be up in a few minutes. Everyone tune in! This should be great

**acrozier22** · 12-15-2008, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Palmer

you can stand up and shout this when he's catching td's next fall.

If he stays, great. I would love for him to catch some TD's for us. I'm going to treat him like an adult though. Not a child.

If he does stay, he needs to apologize via facebook or whatever to the ISU fans. Just think of the outrage that would have caused if he put an Iowa jersey on.

**dustinal** · 12-15-2008, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by acrozier22

If he stays, great. I would love for him to catch some TD's for us. I'm going to treat him like an adult though. Not a child.

If he does stay, he needs to apologize via facebook or whatever to the ISU fans. Just think of the outrage that would have caused if he put an Iowa jersey on.

You didn't read the responses to your first post in this thread. He already did that.

**Palmer** · 12-15-2008, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by acrozier22

If he stays, great. I would love for him to catch some TD's for us. I'm going to treat him like an adult though. Not a child.

If he does stay, he needs to apologize via facebook or whatever to the ISU fans. Just think of the outrage that would have caused if he put an Iowa jersey on.

whatever

you must be wound up tight if this bothers you that much.

**retzmountn** · 12-15-2008, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by throwittoblythe

The one thing that makes me think Gill won't come here is that he just completed a rebuilding (or just building, in Buffalo's case) job. Why would he want to come to a place where he has to do the same thing? I'd love to have the guy, but if I'm in his shoes having just brought a program back from the cellar of college football, I want to get into a program where I can have success at a much quicker pace, rather than just starting all over again.

$750,000+ more/year might be one reason why he might consider ISU. Also, the Big 12, good talent in place currently & needs some work & the fan support interested in winning a Big 12 North title.

**DJK15** · 12-15-2008, 02:46 PM

I think you're taking Cunningham's comment too literally. Sure, on the surface moving from a MAC team to a Big 12 team isn't a lateral move. But he'll be moving from a cellar dweller that he rebuilt to another cellar dweller that needs rebuilding. Cunningham said he should wait another 1-2 years at Buffalo for a better job to come along. I have to agree with that.

**benjay** · 12-15-2008, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by DJK15

I think you're taking Cunningham's comment too literally. Sure, on the surface moving from a MAC team to a Big 12 team isn't a lateral move. But he'll be moving from a cellar dweller that he rebuilt to another cellar dweller that needs rebuilding. Cunningham said he should wait another 1-2 years at Buffalo for a better job to come along. I have to agree with that.

You say we take his comment too literally, and then reiterate exactly what he said.

You get stupid points for that.

**dmclone** · 12-15-2008, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by DJK15

Cunningham said he should wait another 1-2 years at Buffalo for a better job to come along. I have to agree with that.

Of course you do. You'd probably like to see Marty Fine as the next HC at ISU.

**acrozier22** · 12-15-2008, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Palmer

whatever

you must be wound up tight if this bothers you that much.

You must be wound up even tighter if my response bothered you that much.

Let's move on to arguing over who our new coach will be....

**Palmer** · 12-15-2008, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by DJK15

I think you're taking Cunningham's comment too literally. Sure, on the surface moving from a MAC team to a Big 12 team isn't a lateral move. But he'll be moving from a cellar dweller that he rebuilt to another cellar dweller that needs rebuilding. Cunningham said he should wait another 1-2 years at Buffalo for a better job to come along. I have to agree with that.

big boost in pay as well.

plus....he will most likely have to rebuild wherever he goes.

you don't know what you are talking about.

**ISUFan22** · 12-15-2008, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by acrozier22

If he stays, great. I would love for him to catch some TD's for us. I'm going to treat him like an adult though. Not a child.

If he does stay, he needs to apologize via facebook or whatever to the ISU fans. Just think of the outrage that would have caused if he put an Iowa jersey on.

Or even worse, a Cubs jersey...

Facebook apologies hold about as much weight as facebook tirades...

**ISUCLONES15** · 12-15-2008, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by throwittoblythe

The one thing that makes me think Gill won't come here is that he just completed a rebuilding (or just building, in Buffalo's case) job. Why would he want to come to a place where he has to do the same thing? I'd love to have the guy, but if I'm in his shoes having just brought a program back from the cellar of college football, I want to get into a program where I can have success at a much quicker pace, rather than just starting all over again.

Because right now he is making 190k a year in the MAC when he could come to the Big 12 and make 1 mill plus a year. Plus I agree with Pollard that the foundation has already been layed here at ISU. It is not going to be a compelte rebuilding project.