Cyclones Land New Commitment!!!

**CRLCy** · 01-11-2009, 04:28 PM

Welcome Jake!!!!
We can't wait to see you play!
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Some people on this board need to stop bashing every dang recruit and committment coming on board, based upon only star rating and whether or Iowa as offered. Geez. Really, some of you need to decide if you are on the correct board. Questions are one thing, but the whole...

"I sure hope i'm wrong, but everything looks bad stuff".... it's got to go...

**kucyclone** · 01-11-2009, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by CRLCy

Some people on this board need to stop bashing every dang recruit and committment coming on board, based upon only star rating and whether or Iowa as offered. Geez. Really, some of you need to decide if you are on the correct board. Questions are one thing, but the whole...

"I sure hope i'm wrong, but everything looks bad stuff".... it's got to go...

You think we should all be blind optimists without any regard to reality? I'd much rather get into real discussion about the state of our football program than have to make it all up on a whim, predict 8 wins a season, and consistently be wrong. Just me?

**cycloneman003** · 01-11-2009, 05:02 PM

go to school with this kid. same grade. great athlete played saftey and WR on our team. best player on the field in pretty much every game. the speed is legit. thought he might play baseball in college but i guess not. he probably not an immediate contributer, but i could see him helping out in the future. put up HUGE numbers as a WR in high school, but dont know that he could play that in the big XII. im happy for him. great kid.

**CRLCy** · 01-11-2009, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by kucyclone

You think we should all be blind optimists without any regard to reality? I'd much rather get into real discussion about the state of our football program than have to make it all up on a whim, predict 8 wins a season, and consistently be wrong. Just me?

Not blind optimists, but rather...
Support your team and the commits that choose ISU.
Unless we are evaluating the talent, we don't know how they are going to turn out.. Lesser 'star' players can make a difference.

Do I wish we had the pick of any and all players in the country? Absolutely. I hope we get there someday. The recruits today will hopefully help us get there.

Gotta change our mindset to a positive (not blindly) outlook to expect these players to make a difference.

U expect good things, good things happen.
U expect bad things, bad things often happen (i.e. we attract them) gotta change that.

**bfross** · 01-11-2009, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by kucyclone

When signing day comes in less than a month, everyone on this board and PR is going to say all the right things about this class. People are going to tout it as a bunch of "diamonds in the rough," and get a false sense of enthusiasm about the class. But really, what makes our 2* players the diamonds, but other teams' 2* players just the rough, other than just blind faith? Everyone seems to like our new coaching staff, but I don't see it as head-and-shoulders above anyone else's

The fact of the matter is that we have only 3 verbals from high school recruits that have any offers from other BCS-conference schools: White, Boffeli, and Beshears.

I do realize that Chizik and the coaching change contributed greatly to our position, but in my opinion, unless things vastly improve on the recruiting trail, we are going to be creating a false sense of excitement when touting this recruiting class come National Signing Day.

I hope I'm wrong, but so far I don't see a whole lot to be excited about in this class so far.

So what's different than any other year? If you want something different than that, you are cheering for the wrong team because history says it won't be much different year in and year out no matter who's the coach here.

Like it or not, half the kids in this country don't even know where Iowa is (a lot of adults fall into that category too). Wherever I travel people say "oh, you're from Iowa, that's the Buckeyes right?" or "oh, Iowa is the potato state, right?" or the best "Iowa, that's the state where everyone's a farmer". If we are going to be successful, it might as well be with the kids we've got and some of them hopefully will be Iowa kids. By the way, this kid grew up in the KC area. What does that matter? Nothing, just seems like some people feel better if a kid automatically plays anywhere but the state of Iowa.

**cycloneman003** · 01-11-2009, 05:08 PM

he was elite all state this year as well. i think he can be a really good player in a year or two. great instincts. like i said, the speed is legit, size is legit. if he bulks up to 230ish and can maintain that speed i dont see why he cant play. underrated recruit IMO.

hes tough too. played the entire state playoff game vs ankeny with a fractured bone in his foot and was in a walking boot for about 2 months after that. that takes balls there

**JDDCy** · 01-11-2009, 05:15 PM

Jake has more D1 offers(4) than 80% of the committments we have so far. He is now listed at 6-3 and 227#'s on rivals. If he is even close to the 4.57 40 he is listed with he has the measurables to be a Big XII linebacker. Yet some of the experts here think they know more than the staff and have already decided he is not scholarship worthy. I have heard about this kid since he was a sophomore at Waukee and was slightly confused as to why the previous staff was not showing him any interest. If there is concern that PR will revert back to the in-state fall back recruits that Mac used to get Jake should not be the reason for to think that. The reaches Mac used to make rarely had any other D1 offers. This is not Collins Eboh, Levi Kanwicher, or Matt Sherbring. Jake is a solid D1 recruit that would probably get a few more offers by the time signing day rolled around if he had not committed this weekend. Sorry about the rant but some of you have obviously not follower recruiting for very long.

**Bipolarcy** · 01-11-2009, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

Waukee isn't exactly invisible, not some tiny little eight man school. If he were any good, Iowa wouldn't be going to the East Coast for two star linebacker recruits; and Kansas and Nebraska would be offering. Hardly like he's a hidden gem.

Iowa was recruiting him heavily, just to let you know. They were probably trying to sneak him on the team and not have to use a scholarship. So, no, he wasn't a hidden gem. He also had three offers form Division 1-A schools and several from 1-AA schools.

These are the kinds of Iowa kids that we regret losing when they go somewhere else. And his speed appears to be legit, if you look at his videos. This kid is just a great athlete, with offers from Iowa, among others, to play baseball as well.

**Steve** · 01-11-2009, 05:17 PM

If nothing else, he looks like he could be a valuable contributor on special teams. LB/TE types are key parts of coverage units as well as the intermediate positions on KO returns. Special teams comprise nearly one-third of a game and can end up either winning or losing toss-up games.

**Bipolarcy** · 01-11-2009, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by kucyclone

However, you're right in the fact that I'm not sure a 200lb linebacker from Waukee, ranked 9th in the state and with Army as his next best offer, is really going to materially help us. Again, I hope I'm wrong.

He's closer to 220 than 200. In fact, if you look at the Rivals database, they now list him at 227. That has changed just since the commitment story was posted, so I'm sure whoever wrote the story asked him for his vital stats and changed the database. ESPN rates him higher than Mosby.

**Palmer** · 01-11-2009, 05:22 PM

welcome Jake!

**cycloneman003** · 01-11-2009, 05:27 PM

Here are his 2008 season stats per Quik Stats Iowa...

Rushing: 22 car, 142 yds, 6.5 ypc, 4 TD

Recieving: 37 rec, 846 yds, 22.9 ypc, 5 TD

Defense: 106 tackles, 3 TFL, 2 INT (1 TD)

Returns: 13 KR, 286 yds, 22 ypr

Punting: 39 punts, 32.9 avg

so in other words he pretty much did everything there was to do on a football field.... and i specifically made his yards per catch bold because that is a really good looking stat.

**Scott34** · 01-11-2009, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

Welcome to the Cyclones, Jake!

So, what's the "great" news? I'm still looking for that part.

That claimed 4.57 40 time is questionable, at best. It's not a combine time, and if he was really that big and that fast, we wouldn't be getting him over North Dakota and Wyoming. Not so long ago, a high school kid from Cresco named Kyle Slifka claimed to be the same size and speed. He walked on at ISU, you decide how that turned out.

Geez can you think anymore negatively. We get a decent recruit and your not happy. Maybe you should of stayed in bed today.

**BigM** · 01-11-2009, 05:55 PM

well 106 tackles is nice waukee was also at the isu camp this summer (see David Barrent thread) and bith this guay and walker woods looked really good. any news if were trying to get a prefered walk on out of woods? also his size and speed are legit

**mkadl** · 01-11-2009, 06:12 PM

Lets go get Matt Hoch in Harlan. I have never seen a motor on a guy, with his size, ever. (I will be 50 within 10 years) If he follows his brother to MIZZOU so be it. If he goes to the Hawks he will end up like most of the other in state recruits that choose the dark side, lost and disoriented. Blum from Walnut and Larson from Atlantic IE.