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Old 01-15-2009, 01:15 PM   #16
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Re: Dan Patrick

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What about Big 10 QB's? Other than Kerry Collins, how many do they have?
Not to toot the Big 10's horn, but they have 13.

5 - Michigan (Brady, Henson, T. Collins, Griese, Henne)
2 - Purdue (Brees, Orton)
2 - Wisconsin (Sorgi, Bollinger)
1 - Ohio State (Smith)
1 - Mich. State (Stanton)
1 - Illinois (Hamdan)
1 - Penn State (Collins)

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Old 01-15-2009, 01:17 PM   #17
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Big Ten

Kerry Collins Tom Brady Drew Brees Kyle Orton Drew Henson Drew Stanton Troy Smith



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Old 01-15-2009, 01:18 PM   #18
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I guess I was a little late but man I forgot how many QB' are from the big 10 Collin Cowherd always makes it sound like 0



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Old 01-15-2009, 01:23 PM   #19
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What about Big 10 QB's? Other than Kerry Collins, how many do they have?
Drew Brees?
Randal-el is now an athlete.

Let's give a high five for Diante as he leads us into war in the Big 12 conference race next year. Some are recruited for greatness on Johnny Oar FloOR, more are coming.
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Old 01-15-2009, 01:38 PM   #20
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Pac-10 - 17
Big Ten - 14
ACC - 12
Conference USA - 12
SEC - 11
WAC - 6
Big East - 5
Mountain West - 5
Big 12 - 4
Mid-American - 4
Sun Belt - 2
Independents - 1

Division I-AA - 12
Division II - 3
Division III - 0

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Old 01-15-2009, 01:38 PM   #21
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Why are we comparing apples to oranges? The Big10 runs offenses that are similar to a pro style offense. Power running game, and very few designed QB runs. The Big12 is more of a finesse, spread the field game with running QB's abound. Sure, they may play the same position, but they are recruited differently for certain aspects of their game. Why do you think it was so easy for guys like Kerry Meier and Austin Flynn to move into the reciever position. I'd like to see Chad Henne or Tom Brady do that.
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Old 01-15-2009, 02:19 PM   #22
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A caller on his show today was talking about Big 12 QB's. They talked about how they are all over-rated. He said there are only 3 in the NFL and all bench warmers. If this is true, that makes ISU look really good. The 3 I thought of were Sage, Seneca, and Vince Young. Go Cyclones!
Chris Simms also warms the bench. Dan Patrick should read:

Atomic Teeth » Blog Archive » The Conference of Quarterbacks….seriously?

Anyway, the fact that there are currently not many Big 12 QBs in the NFL doesn't have anything to whether the current batch of QBs can play in the NFL.

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Old 01-15-2009, 02:21 PM   #23
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That is pretty remarkable if it's true. I guess Chris Simms isn't around anymore. Sage and Seneca haven't exactly been benchwarmers the last couple of seasons though.
Simms is behind VY on the Titan roster.

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Old 01-15-2009, 02:36 PM   #24
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The 4 QBs left are from

UNI
Delaware
Miami (OH)
Syracuse

By the transitive power of extremely small sample sizes, that must mean that the best quarterbacks are in 1-AA college football.
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:15 PM   #25
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What about Big 10 QB's? Other than Kerry Collins, how many do they have?
Tom Brady, Brian Griese, Drew Brees, Kyle Orton. I can't think of any more. Those four only represent two schools but two of them are arguably the best in the NFL.
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:18 PM   #26
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Why are we comparing apples to oranges? The Big10 runs offenses that are similar to a pro style offense. Power running game, and very few designed QB runs. The Big12 is more of a finesse, spread the field game with running QB's abound. Sure, they may play the same position, but they are recruited differently for certain aspects of their game. Why do you think it was so easy for guys like Kerry Meier and Austin Flynn to move into the reciever position. I'd like to see Chad Henne or Tom Brady do that.
And I would like to see a running QB succeed in the NFL. The Big 12 isn't a QB running conference. Yes, McCoy, Reesing and Daniel WILL run, but there aren't a large amount of designed QB runs within their offense. The fact is the Big Ten puts bett NFL QBs in the NFL.
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:22 PM   #27
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I don't know in what context Dan Patrick made this comment, but if it was to support that the Big 12 quarterbacks are over-rated, then I totally agree. Not one will make it in the NFL, not even Bradford. Where is Josh Huepel? These are all system quarterbacks - Chase Daniel, Graham Harrell, Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford. They all might as well be named David Kingler or Andre Ware.

If one were to prove me wrong, I'd say it would be Colt McCoy. Man has heart.
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Old 01-16-2009, 07:28 AM   #28
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I think you could also argue that the Patriots just have "system quarterbacks." Matt Cassel hasn't started since high school, steps in for an injured Tom Brady and within a few games is playing like an all-pro. Brady was a bit of a no-name whe he started as well when he took over for Bledsoe.
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Old 01-16-2009, 07:28 AM   #29
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What about Big 10 QB's? Other than Kerry Collins, how many do they have?
Tom Brady
Kyle Orton
Drew Brees
Gus Ferrote
Brian Griese
Troy Smith


That is what I can think of right now
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Old 01-16-2009, 07:31 AM   #30
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I don't know in what context Dan Patrick made this comment, but if it was to support that the Big 12 quarterbacks are over-rated, then I totally agree. Not one will make it in the NFL, not even Bradford. Where is Josh Huepel? These are all system quarterbacks - Chase Daniel, Graham Harrell, Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford. They all might as well be named David Kingler or Andre Ware.

If one were to prove me wrong, I'd say it would be Colt McCoy. Man has heart.
I think bradford could prove you wrong as well and Austen Arnaud. Freemen might do well as well.
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