Strength and Conditioning Coach...

[ripvdub]

At this point I dont think anyone will be happy with whomever we get as DC or S&C coach.

[cyclonedave25]

Totally agree...S&C is not rocket science. Just get a guy in there that can motivate the players. This seems to be the most overrated hire of the whole staff around here.

I'll disagree. Of course, most people know how to lift weights, run, etc. But, there are huge differences in good and bad S&C coaches. Especially for a football team, training players for their respective positions with the proper lifts and emphasizing different lifts for position players. I have seen many bad S&C coaches who don't know what the heck they are doing. They go through the motions and make players stronger. The good coaches will take advantage of every opportunity they can get and capitalize on every possible thing. They will turn your average college athlete into a quick, explosive, beast. Something that separates your average team, from a physical, fast, powerful team.

[kc_clone]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/08/sp...ewanted=1&_r=1

Some experts on this board think that a coach should just hire any strength coach, because they're all the same. Urban Meyer in this article says it's "the most important hire." He's only won two National Championships though.

[mustangcy]

I'll disagree. Of course, most people know how to lift weights, run, etc. But, there are huge differences in good and bad S&C coaches. Especially for a football team, training players for their respective positions with the proper lifts and emphasizing different lifts for position players. I have seen many bad S&C coaches who don't know what the heck they are doing. They go through the motions and make players stronger. The good coaches will take advantage of every opportunity they can get and capitalize on every possible thing. They will turn your average college athlete into a quick, explosive, beast. Something that separates your average team, from a physical, fast, powerful team.

I agree with everything you said there. But how in the world is any of that difficult? Nothing you just said can't be done by someone with a little education, training and experience. That was my point. I wasn't trying to down grade the job...just make a point that, well, its not rocket science. Don't just go out and hire some schmuck but lets be honest here, PR knows what he's doing and he'll bring in a guy that will get the job done.

[Wallacelantz]

How about Jake Anderson for S&C Coach. I know he is young and some will say inexperienced, but they have to start somewhere.

Central College Athletics - Strength and Conditioning

[bmuff]

Actually it is very scientific and in my opinion as or more important as any position coach. My rank order in importance:
1.HC
2.Coordinators
3.SC
4.Position Coach

I agree. I remember McCarney saying once that the S&C coach (Getty) spent more time with the players than any on-field coach. I'm not into lifting, but if you want someone who just has the players do arms on Monday and Thursday, legs on Tuesday and cardio on Saturday, then yeah, those guys are a dime a dozen. What they need is someone who can tailor the program for each player, focus workouts on improving them at their position and evaluate bodies to project and acheive the optimum size, quickness and speed combination.

Also, the S&C coach needs to be part of the recruiting strategy on official and unofficial visits.

[Wesley]

How about Jake Anderson for S&C Coach. I know he is young and some will say inexperienced, but they have to start somewhere.

Central College Athletics - Strength and Conditioning

Why Not? Interim?

[cyclonedcm]

John Basedow all the way...

[kc_clone]

Jake Anderson is a great guy and a very very good strength coach. I have talked with him, seen his workouts, and talked to current and former players there. They all love him.....and he kills them. Jake has experience at ISU, Iowa, and 7 years at Central. I don't care if it's D3, he knows his stuff. This would be a great hire. He is a big reason for Central's dominance over the last few years. Other teams in the Iowa Conference are starting to hire s&c coaches to play catch up.

[Tornado man]

Jake Anderson is a great guy and a very very good strength coach. I have talked with him, seen his workouts, and talked to current and former players there. They all love him.....and he kills them. Jake has experience at ISU, Iowa, and 7 years at Central. I don't care if it's D3, he knows his stuff. This would be a great hire. He is a big reason for Central's dominance over the last few years. Other teams in the Iowa Conference are starting to hire s&c coaches to play catch up.

I attended a clinic of which he was a speaker - all Anderson talked about was what he learned at Iowa under Chris Doyle. It got very old. I guess Getty held his own against Doyle in the Iowa series...

[kc_clone]

Anderson was mostly with Coach Moser at ISU, not Getty.

[scclone]

I have great respect for PR, and I think he's going to do great things here. That being said, it's Week 2 now of the winter semester and still no strength coach. This is not good. You can get away with not hiring a DC for a little bit because they really can get with those players until Spring Ball. It's go time right now for the physical development of our players. Having a couple of GA's just monitoring the weight room is not going to cut it.

[cyclonedave25]

I agree with everything you said there. But how in the world is any of that difficult? Nothing you just said can't be done by someone with a little education, training and experience. That was my point. I wasn't trying to down grade the job...just make a point that, well, its not rocket science. Don't just go out and hire some schmuck but lets be honest here, PR knows what he's doing and he'll bring in a guy that will get the job done.

I know you weren't downgrading the position, but there's more to it than just lifting some weights. On the surface, it may seem easy to an outsider looking in... Lifting weights, running, making people sweat, etc.. But your good S & C coaches will have a great understanding and knowledge of the physiology, biomechanics, motor control, and nutrition to capitalize on all possible accounts. Periodization and Conjugate training methods are widely used in strength and coniditioning, knowing how to do those correctly and efficiently are very important. Proper form on all lifts is very important, something a lot of uneducated people may not know about. Knowing how to correctly perform a squat, power clean, clean and jerk to an exact "T" vs sloppily doing it will yield huge differences on the field.

I'm just saying that although S & C may seem pretty easy on the outside, there is so much more to it than people actually realize. All of the little things matter in this business. Including, properly training your athletes so that when the season rolls around they are in their best condition and most powerful stage ever. And continuing to train them throughout the season to keep getting better, without over training them, is something hard to accomplish.

[ChickenWing]

I agree. I remember McCarney saying once that the S&C coach (Getty) spent more time with the players than any on-field coach. I'm not into lifting, but if you want someone who just has the players do arms on Monday and Thursday, legs on Tuesday and cardio on Saturday, then yeah, those guys are a dime a dozen. What they need is someone who can tailor the program for each player, focus workouts on improving them at their position and evaluate bodies to project and acheive the optimum size, quickness and speed combination.

Also, the S&C coach needs to be part of the recruiting strategy on official and unofficial visits.

You are crazy if you think in this day and age there are any candidates for this job that would run a simple program like you described. Wouldn't it be safe to assume anyone up for the S&C position at ISU would do all those "high tech" programs and wouldn't it be safe to assume that PR is more than capable of recognizing not to hire Joe Meathead as his S&C coach. Those programs you describe aren't some hidden secret within college athletics. I'm sure they all go to conferences and I'm sure time is dedicated to this junk at coaches conferences. Bottom line, a lot of people get this training now, a lot of people would be more than capable of implementing these programs and PR just needs to find the person he likes and trusts.

I'm giving it another I don't give a f*** who he hires because i'm sure he'll be fine.

[kingcy]

Why dont they just get a few of the workout DVDs from the late night infomercials.