Importance of in state recruiting

[Erik4Cy]

I suppose it was inevitable, but sad, that this thread has gotten completely off track. We were discussing whether it was important for ISU to recruit instate, not a rival thread folks.

Another great hijacking by hawk troll(s) with nothing better to do.

Iowa State will always need instate recruiting. Do they need to keep the top iowa hs fb players to stay in state? no. But having an eye on all the sleepers who can contribute for ISU. Does our starting QB, RB, WR, DE, LB, CB, etc. need to be from instate of course not. If we can get the best players to fit our systems from texas, california, florida, oklahoma, or even vermont than it doesn't matter where in the country they reside. We can't however let the u of i recruit their "territory" here in eastern iowa like it is in fact theirs. It's good to see Cyclone recruits these past fews years coming from Waterloo, Davenport, Bettendorf, Muscatine, Cedar Rapids, etc. here in E iowa. And that has to continue. The addition of a coach who is from Ankeny, Iowa can ONLY help instate recruiting. He knows what Iowa State is all about, he knows how to win there (he's done it) and knows everything ISU can offer. The future is bright for young Cyclones who love football in this state.

[cmhawks99]

as for in-state recruiting, i have no problem letting iowa take the top 4-5 guys, while we recruit really heavy in florida and texas getting superior athletes

Just because I really don't remember have you not been present in this thread or followed ISU recruiting over the years? I don't think it is unreasonable to want superior athletes but what do you think the have been attempting to do over the years?

As I stated earlier ISU from 2002 to 2006 signed 53 kids from Cali, Florida and Texas so maybe just maybe they should have tried a tick harder to sign some of the athletes at home. Maybe they did and couldn't I don't really know but going to Texas and Florida for "athletes" isn’t exactly a new concept for ISU. I wonder how many of those 53 kids actually made it to graduation.

I don't know the answer but I wonder how many "superior" athletes might have been found a little closer to the home borders here in the Midwest. Iowa has found some, maybe PR will too.

Chad

[cmhawks99]

I think if you go back and look real close the hi-jacking occurred by the usual suspects. Here is a hint it wasn’t "hawk" trolls, but rather threatened ISU fans.

Chad

[Erik4Cy]

I think if you go back and look real close the hi-jacking occurred by me, a threatened hawk fan

fixed.

hey chad - ever care to add anything pertaining to Iowa State AND instate recruiting? (what this thread you are typing in is about)

save us the time and go to some hawk board.

[cmhawks99]

fixed.

hey chad - ever care to add anything pertaining to Iowa State AND instate recruiting? (what this thread you are typing in is about)

save us the time and go to some hawk board.

You seem like a nice enuff young man, but either you are a tick off kilter or incapable of facing reality. If you go back and see who (i/e: ISU fans) interjected folly and you then can see how it logically led Iowa fans to certain rebuttals. For example some ISU fan says no one can win NC’s with Iowa recruits which lead to the inevitable.

I have read countless reasonable ISU fans chastise you and similar ISU fans for leading conversations down their logical course and then complaining. Find your mirror and start there.

Chad

PS.............Only a dolt would realistically think you could have a discussion about the validity of in-state recruiting without including both of a states, 2 division 1-A schools.

PPS………..I think you know this but are unwilling to accept the truth of it all.

[mkadl]

I would rather recruit in the state of Florida and Texas

Scout.com: Another Hoch gets 2010 offer from Mizzou

The older brother Dan saw playing time as a freshman in the O-Line. If in state recruits leave and we look the other way we are kidding ourselves.

[kuhlman41]

as for in-state recruiting, i have no problem letting iowa take the top 4-5 guys, while we recruit really heavy in florida and texas getting superior athletes

You actually believe that crap. Iowa has always out recruited ISU in the state, yet I don't see your superior athletes. I also love the fact that every ISU fan now believes you will average 40+ next year. I am actually pretty confident that ISU won't score more than 25 pts next year vs Iowa. I will say after watching the Big 12 defenses this year you do have a chance to score over 40 a few times, but I don't think it will be enough. Though it probably should with all the superior Texas and Florida recruits on that amazing defense.

[Aclone]

I am actually pretty confident that ISU won't score more than 25 pts next year vs Iowa.

I really, really hope that you put some money on that with someone before the game. Iowa is going to miss King a whole bunch more than fans want to admit. And someone is really going to have to step up for Fletcher, who had an excellent senior season.

[kuhlman41]

I really, really hope that you put some money on that with someone before the game. Iowa is going to miss King a whole bunch more than fans want to admit. And someone is really going to have to step up for Fletcher, who had an excellent senior season.

I would definately put money on it. Actually, one of my good friends is a clone fan, and he will wager with me. I will agree we will miss King (who wouldn't) but we are actually pretty deep on the Dline next year with one of our 285 DE moving inside. As far as Fletcher goes, he wasn't even our best corner this year. Speivey was the better of the two, and Prater got high praises from KF as potentially being better than anyone he has had back there in his tenure. I realize Clone fans confidence is high, just like two years ago when you got Chizik and he was going to save the program, but I really have to see it first against good defenses. The teams at the end of the year that your offense lit up were horrible, especially on defense, and you still lost.

[anticyclonic]

In the 80's Iowa was better than Nebraska on a few occasions with a lot of Iowa kids.

What? When? Other than one additional win in 1985, Iowa was not better and not even close, and remember the National Champion team came from the Big 8 in 85'-Oklahoma.

Nebraska matched or exceeded Iowa's season win totals every year that decade except one. The game in 1981 that Iowa won was a fluke, especially if you look how the Huskers destroyed them the preceding and following years.

[Bigguns]

as for in-state recruiting, i have no problem letting iowa take the top 4-5 guys, while we recruit really heavy in florida and texas getting superior athletes

I hope CPR doesn't feel that way. Our goal need to be out recruiting Iowa and every other school that recruits this state and out playing every school that recruits this state. If we beat Iowa, Missouri, Nebraska, Kansas, and K-State we will be well on our way to building a solid program. When we have a solid program then we should set our sights on the Big 12 south. Just my opinion.

[Aclone]

as for in-state recruiting, i have no problem letting iowa take the top 4-5 guys, while we recruit really heavy in florida and texas getting superior athletes

Honestly, I'd far rather take the top 4-5 guys, fill out our class from Florida/Texas/etc, and let Iowa have the rest.