recruiting

**wpicmin** · 04-21-2009, 01:12 PM

How are we so far on getting recruits for next years class, i believe ever Big 12 school besides ISU has at least a commit so far....are we getting anywhere? Any progess lately?

**rhillary** · 04-21-2009, 01:15 PM

It is way too early to get worked-up about this. It looks like we are in on some solid guys and this year doesn't look any worse than any other year. If we can get 4 or 5 wins, that will help a lot with recruiting, if we can get to a bowl game after the last 2 years, watch out because that would be saying something about our coaching staff!

**arganbright2** · 04-21-2009, 01:20 PM

I often worry about this as well. It seriously comes down to schools like us getting whatever is left over from Florida, Texas, etc. Look at Florida, Texas, Texas A&M's recruiting classes. They are almost filled and they haven't seen any of their recruits play their senior year of football.

**cyhiphopp** · 04-21-2009, 02:40 PM

What the heck happens when one of thos UT recruits doesn't pan out? Do they just pull the offer after their senior year is over?

**Clone9** · 04-21-2009, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by arganbright2

I often worry about this as well. It seriously comes down to schools like us getting whatever is left over from Florida, Texas, etc. Look at Florida, Texas, Texas A&M's recruiting classes. They are almost filled and they haven't seen any of their recruits play their senior year of football.

Let's face the facts - we, along with everyone else, are fighting for Florida and Texas' leftover recruits. It's gonna take a while until we start landing top tier guys early.

We appear to be in on some nice players, and everyone is saying that we've got a good group of recruiting coaches, so there is definitely nothing to worry about yet. Like somebody said, if we manage 5 or 6 wins this year, I think we will have a great class.

**cyhiphopp** · 04-21-2009, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Clone9

Let's face the facts - we, along with everyone else, are fighting for Florida and Texas' leftover recruits. It's gonna take a while until we start landing top tier guys early.

We appear to be in on some nice players, and everyone is saying that we've got a good group of recruiting coaches, so there is definitely nothing to worry about yet. Like somebody said, if we manage 5 or 6 wins this year, I think we will have a great class.

One thing DMac didn't do well was capitalize on good seasons with improved recruiting. Hopefully this staff can take advantage, and hopefully that time comes soon.

**cmhawks99** · 04-21-2009, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by cyhiphopp

What the heck happens when one of thos UT recruits doesn't pan out? Do they just pull the offer after their senior year is over?

This does indeed happen, most everywhere actually. As far as the "leftover" comment, that is accurate to a degree. But ISU's hope should be that their coaches will become "adept" at evaluation at what many of us have been programmed to think are "left over's" will become a targeted recruit that staff was very pleased to get.

Chad

**hurdleisu24** · 04-21-2009, 02:55 PM

Relax a little because of the coaching change the coaches haven't had a chance to really build networks and get in on a bunch of kids that could and did committ early. Most recruits want to see what ISU is going to run and how they would fit in not just go with what a coach would say. Also other than KSU there isn't another team in the conference that doesn't either have the national name or have the recruiting area to get a lot of these kids

**cyhiphopp** · 04-21-2009, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by cmhawks99

This does indeed happen, most everywhere actually. As far as the "leftover" comment, that is accurate to a degree. But ISU's hope should be that their coaches will become "adept" at evaluation at what many of us have been programmed to think are "left over's" will become a targeted recruit that staff was very pleased to get.

Chad

That's what I figured. Sucks to be that Texas kid who has a so-so senior year and gets dumped by the Longhorns. ISU will give him a chance to get back at UT though!

I agree about talent evaluation too. Texas, Florida and USC can pretty much take their top picks and fit them into their system. ISU has to find guys that fit their system, kind of like Iowa has under KF. They might only be 2 or 3 stars, but if they fit the system, they can play above their "Star Rating".

**djcubby** · 04-21-2009, 03:03 PM

Keep in mind that our first commit last year wasn't until May 5th, and he was an ISU legacy. We don't have any guys like that this year. The closest situations would either be Kohler or Scherf and they have some other decent offers to consider.

**cmhawks99** · 04-21-2009, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by cyhiphopp

That's what I figured. Sucks to be that Texas kid who has a so-so senior year and gets dumped by the Longhorns. ISU will give him a chance to get back at UT though!

I agree about talent evaluation too. Texas, Florida and USC can pretty much take their top picks and fit them into their system. ISU has to find guys that fit their system, kind of like Iowa has under KF. They might only be 2 or 3 stars, but if they fit the system, they can play above their "Star Rating".

Good follow, though as I reread what I wrote it was a little convoluted. My critics would say that is the norm.....

I especially agree with the "system" and 2 star, 3 star stuff. I have long since conceded, no matter how many great seasons Iowa may be fortunate enuff to have. They will never sign even 5-4 star kids a year, let alone 10. I also don't care. Yes I do sometimes get excited about the fanfare, but really I love when a 2 star beats out a 4 star kid and Iowa has routinely put those 2 star kids in the league. Proving to me they were under ranked to begin with. I think this is something PR can and will do as well.

Chad

**AntiSnob** · 04-21-2009, 03:33 PM

[QUOTE=Clone9;1021633]we, along with everyone else, are fighting for Florida and Texas' leftover recruits.

You don't need Florida and Texas players to be good. Look at Iowa's 2009 recruiting class: one player from Florida, 0 from Texas. The rest are from Iowa, Illinois, Ohio, New Jersey, Maryland, Connecticut, and Massachusetts.

**LeSchmick** · 04-21-2009, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by rhillary

It is way too early to get worked-up about this. It looks like we are in on some solid guys and this year doesn't look any worse than any other year. If we can get 4 or 5 wins, that will help a lot with recruiting, if we can get to a bowl game after the last 2 years, watch out because that would be saying something about our coaching staff!

This is a sad statement for our team....

**cyhiphopp** · 04-21-2009, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by LeSchmick

This is a sad statement for our team....

Sad, but at least it would be progress.

**cyhiphopp** · 04-21-2009, 03:42 PM

I think 6 wins and a bowl game would be even that much better. It would be proof that it most deffinitely was the coaching to blame last year and not the players.