Funny how perspectives on "what's a good seat" can vary from person to person. I'd much rather be up high and have always loved my seats in N.
I do not think anyone who as expressed a concern has said, not to sell them, or not to try and get as many people to the game as possible.
It is about how it is done, how donors are treated with variations from stated/historical benefits, and variations to what was stated policies that donors purchsed additional tickets with.
Then, when they voice a concern, they are told to "be glad they can donate, how dare they make a donation based on seating locations, or just be quiet and pay. And, it looks like for the most part this is being said by non-donors (and some donors as well).
This is the insulting part, someone not making a donation lecturing someone who did, or telling them why they should, or should not make a donation.
Bottom line, while no one makes a donation unless they love ISU, there is a reason our whole seating system, and every other college stadium/arena is based on a seat license/donation level system, because it works.
I have seen several major donors (as defined by donating at least $2,500 or more) post in this or similar threads, (and several of these give double what they need to for their seats) getting lectures on being quiet and being a good donor. It is almost humorous.
It really does not have to be that complex, some minor changes can make it better and still accomplish the goal.
1. Many donors did not get the letter saying donors woudl have first option until after min-paks went on sale.
2. Single game tickets were not to go on sale for a while yet, why not hold the public mini-pak sales up for a week to let donors and season ticket holders have a shot. Again, not perfect with seating area but it recognizes those who stepped up first.
3. Right now non-donors, non-season ticket holders, and hawk and NDSU fans have had the same priority.
4. Bottom line,if you are a fan, you are a stakeholder and have a voice, donor or non-donor. However, as a donor, you have paid up front to support ISU and with that comes some benefits.
As always this is just my opinion, for discussion.
I personally am not resentful of whatever they need to do to make money, but some fans will be. I just hope that they are able to let it go.
I'm not begrudging anyone for getting these packs. I'm toying with taking advantage of it myself. But I understand any frustration that a full season ticket holder and/or donor may feel in the way this is going down.
Not only are these people getting into donor seating with no donation required, but they're getting in to the stadium and game at a hugely discounted price. And ahead of single sales as you mention. That's a bit of a double -whammy for those who understood that the rules apparently worked a different way and paid according to those rules
Again, my biggest hang up with the pack is the iowa game one. No way - no how. JP may not have stated it, and he has the word game to use at his disposal..... but that ticket was understood to only come by one way - now he's playing slight of hand. If you buy that iowa pack, you're effectively getting into NDSU and CU for about $3.75
I fully support JP - always have. But this gimmick ticks me off.
If you cannot fill up the donor sections, the donor sections are too big, and should be reduced to fit demand. Then all the others who are devastated by the economy can sit outside the donor sections. They won't donate but they get to sit in donor sections? Makes sense:jimlad:
Why do people think the mini packs are such a great idea? Because you can sit in a donor section without donating. I bet they can't wait to start donating next year for the same seats.
Why do people think the mini packs are such a great idea? Because you can sit in a donor section without donating. I bet they can't wait to start donating next year for the same seats.[/QUOTE]
Just like it worked from 08?:confused:
Okay so we've got this topic covered.
What, three weeks until the students v alumni battle wages? I'm excited, I get to be on a different side of the debate this year :wink: