Mike Marry Grayshirt

**cyentist** · 08-09-2009, 03:06 PM

So Mike Marry is being asked to take a grayshirt at Ole Miss. Doesn't sound like that is a lock either.

NEMS360.com - Saturday afternoon notebook

"As the numbers whittle themselves down to 25 from the 38 in the signing class freshman linebacker Mike Marry, of Clearwater, Fla., has been asked to accept a grayshirt and enroll in December. Part of that decision has to do with Marry’s delay in committing to Ole Miss in the recruiting process. “Now I think he wishes he’d have committed earlier. We didn’t know about him two or three days before,” Nutt said.
There’s no guarantee Marry will enroll in December. Other schools are “coming after him,” Nutt said. “Where he is down there in Florida, you pick up the paper and see your (high school) teammates practicing in other places. It’s a difficult pill to swallow.”

**ripvdub** · 08-09-2009, 03:11 PM

He probably wouldve cracked the 2 deep after 3 practices if he was up here with his buddy LJ.
Is he eligible to leave his LOI then since he was not one of the 25?

**Wesley** · 08-09-2009, 03:12 PM

I would think he is free money if others are chasing him.

**cyfan964** · 08-09-2009, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by ripvdub

He probably wouldve cracked the 2 deep after 3 practices if he was up here with his buddy LJ.
Is he eligible to leave his LOI then since he was not one of the 25?

As far as I know, yes. If you grayshirt you pay your way and they put you on scholarship the next year. I believe he could go elsewhere.

**tim_redd** · 08-09-2009, 03:13 PM

We need LJ to give him a call...

**nj829** · 08-09-2009, 03:14 PM

I would think he is free since Ole Miss can't fulfill their end of the LOI.

**cyentist** · 08-09-2009, 03:15 PM

I'm not familiar with the NCAA rules. However the definition of a grayshirt means that they do not receive financial assistance in any way and are not officially a member of the team. I would imagine that since you signed a LOI for a scholarship and they aren't giving you one I would assume you can opt out, otherwise other teams couldn't be "going after him". You are correct that he definitely would be able to have the chance to contribute early on.

**cmoore_23** · 08-09-2009, 03:19 PM

the ?is do we have a scholly for him

**Aclone** · 08-09-2009, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by cmoore_23

the ?is do we have a scholly for him

That's hardly where I'd start with "the question".

For example, does he get released? Then, does he still have any interest in going to the Midwest...

**woodie** · 08-09-2009, 03:21 PM

to hell with nutt.i'd say go recruit him if he is a solid football player.

**MaxPower57** · 08-09-2009, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by cmoore_23

the ?is do we have a scholly for him

I'd imagine so, with Jackson, Mims, Bellamy, and Martin not coming we should definitely have room. Even if those two new JCs that showed up, Watts and Brooks, are on scholarship.

**CycloneErik** · 08-09-2009, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by woodie

to hell with nutt.i'd say go recruit him if he is a solid football player.

That sounds good to me. If a guy wants to over-recruit that far, let him start losing people. I wouldn't mind a bit.

**iccyfan** · 08-09-2009, 03:52 PM

This is so sad. Twenty years ago, my stock line (when describing being an ISU fan) was, eastern Iowa kids go to Iowa and western Iowa kids would rather walk-on at Nebraska than accept a scholarship from us. This now represents a new low; a kid willing to delay enrollment so his "clock doesn't start ticking". Then they still have the opportunity to redshirt him and he's on the "six year plan".

Disclaimer: If I'm remembering the LOI signing day correctly, we thought Marry was "ours" because Ole Miss was way over the signing limit. He knew this was a distinct possibility, or Nutt also spoke openly of stashing kids in Mississippi Junior Colleges...

**Aclone** · 08-09-2009, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by iccyfan

This is so sad. Twenty years ago, my stock line (when describing being an ISU fan) was, eastern Iowa kids go to Iowa and western Iowa kids would rather walk-on at Nebraska than accept a scholarship from us. This now represents a new low; a kid willing to delay enrollment so his "clock doesn't start ticking".

What's so sad about it? Ethan Tuftee (from Eastern Iowa) was a grayshirt who wanted to be a Cyclone.

**stretchclone** · 08-09-2009, 03:59 PM

This grey shirt thing has been brought up a million and 1 times over the years.
I think grey shirt means that you enroll in school 2nd semester NOT 1st semester!! If you do take classes 1st semester you have to be less than full time, 11 credits or less. And yes you pay for that yourself. A grey shirt would basically mean you have 2 redshirt years, they don't call it that but it is. You have 5 years to play 4. If you grey shirted your first year and took fulltime classes your first fall, that would count as one of your 5 years. Which is not considered a grey shirt, just stupid. Football season can grey shirt because they just play in the fall. Basketball plays in both semesters so they only have redshirts.
Here is an example...
you are a high school grad in 09 you go to school in the fall of 09 (1st year of football) and you red shirt. So you can play 10,11,12,13 and be done.
you are a high school grad in 09 you grey shirt, enroll 2nd semester in 10, first fall football season is 10 and you can redshirt, then play 11,12, 13,14
Lets look at Kurtis Taylor for example, I think he grey shirted his first official year, and later hurt his knee and took that year as a redshirt and it didn't hurt his year of eligibility.