Cyclone offense rated behind Iowa, Auburn

[Al_4_State]

Iowa at 17th is an absolute joke. Every time CFN "opens their mouth" they lose another shred of credibility...

[Cyrocks]

I'd like to see the stats for Myers/Reisner compared to whoever it is plays TE for ISU.

ISU

Franklin 26 for 301 and 2 TDs
Catlett 20 for 230 and 0 TDs


Iowa

Myers 34 for 441 and 4TDS
Reisner 11 for for 200 and 1 TD

Not really a fair comparison -- apples and oranges here.

That's because Iowa does a good job of using their tight ends effectively into their offense. Lately, ISU throws the ball to a tight end about as many times as I visit the Hawkeye Nation Web site -- which is hardly ever.

[Cyrocks]

Sorry about my last post. I should have read further down. Better posters than I have made better points -- including TarHeelHawk.

[trippnschmidt]

Iowa at 17th is an absolute joke. Every time CFN "opens their mouth" they lose another shred of credibility...

It might be a bit inflated, but I'd hardly call it a joke based on some of the stats thrown around on this thread. Did you read it? Count me as another one who didn't realize that ISU was using their tight ends as much. A good tight end who can catch the ball in traffic is worth his weight in gold.

[capitalcityguy]

One way to be sure we don't get overlooked in "rankings" in the future.

WIN SOME DAMN GAMES!!

You see how well that works for the Hawks. How about we try that strategy for a change instead of bemoaning where they end up in various rankings?

[Gonzo]

Not really a fair comparison -- apples and oranges here.

That's because Iowa does a good job of using their tight ends effectively into their offense. Lately, ISU throws the ball to a tight end about as many times as I visit the Hawkeye Nation Web site -- which is hardly ever.

Circular argument. If ISU had better TEs, maybe they'd use them more.

[agronclone]

this is dumb. iowa's offense is horrendous, and has been since the capital one bowl game. isu may lose most games, but they can at least put up 40 or 50 points against a lot of teams. iowa can only score at will against the no name teams they play the 1st couple games a season. as for auburn, "FU** auburn!

[SplitIdentity]

this is dumb. iowa's offense is horrendous, and has been since the capital one bowl game. isu may lose most games, but they can at least put up 40 or 50 points against a lot of teams. iowa can only score at will against the no name teams they play the 1st couple games a season. as for auburn, "FU** auburn!

That must be why Iowa averaged more points per game than ISU the last three seasons, right?

[Aclone]

That must be why Iowa averaged more points per game than ISU the last three seasons, right?

No, just that ISU's offense has been worse than horrendous. Duh.

[SplitIdentity]

No, just that ISU's offense has been worse than horrendous. Duh.

I was thinking, I wonder if anybody would notice if we just switched the allowed points and the points scored last year. The numbers would be pretty respectable then! :(

I just purchased my student tickets.

[hawkadoodledoo]

Iowa's O-line is the reason we are rated that high on offense. RB's don't really matter when they aren't getting touched until 5 yards downfield. It's the Freddie Russel effect. 17th does seem pretty high though, I would guess more around the 35 range fits better.

[CykoAGR]

So Iowa is going to be much better an offense without Shonn Greene? Really? Top 20? Give me a break.

Iowa's offense will be good for 5 reasons:

Left Tackle
Left Guard
Center
Right Guard
Right Tackle


Put any D1 running back behind that offensive line and he looks as good as Shonn Greene did last year.


I hate to argue for the Hawks but IMO this is why they are ranked so high.

[homerHAWKeye777]

Returning ISU WR stats

Darks 49 catches for 477 1 TD
Jones 32 catches for 384 0 TD
Hamilton 26 catches for 301 3 TD
SJ 18 catches for 188 3 TD

IOWA WRs

DJK 44 catches for 639 and 3TDs Long 59
Stross 13 for 109 and 1 TD DID not play in 25% of his teams games
Sandeman 6 for 76 and 2 TD

So yeah when you look at it like that..... they dont return much. We did throw the ball 120 times more than Iowa did last yaer. I kept thinking Brodell is back, which made Iowa clearly the leader in returning WRs.

When you look at career production, Iowa's group of WR/TEs has better production than ISU's WR/TEs. Not that that means much ... however, it is a fact.

[Cyrocks]

ISU's TEs are a lot more productive than non Clone fans realize.

Thats what I was thinking; those are pretty comparable numbers.

Circular argument. If ISU had better TEs, maybe they'd use them more.

I said nothing about the quality of players, so there is no need to be insulting. I made the simple observation that ISU doesn't use its tight ends as much as Iowa.

But as you can see, heitclone AND TarHeelHawk both made good points.

[homerHAWKeye777]

When you look at career production, Iowa's group of WR/TEs has better production than ISU's WR/TEs. Not that that means much ... however, it is a fact.

Take a gander at the following career numbers of the "proven" guys from each squad ....

ISU's WRs/TEs:

Hamilton (SR) - 77 receptions, 903 yards, 4 TDs
Jones (SR) - 33 receptions, 390 yards, 0 TDs
Darks (SO) - 49 receptions, 477 yards, 1 TD
Johnson (SO) - 18 receptions, 188 yards, 3 TDs
Franklin (JR) - 15 receptions, 258 yards, 2 TDs
Catlett (SR) - 41 receptions, 342 yards, 2 TDs
Reynolds (JR) - nothing yet

Iowa's WRs/TEs:

DJK (JR) - 82 receptions, 1121 yards, 5 TDs
Stross (SR) - 42 receptions, 570 yards, 6 TDs
Sandeman (JR) - 10 receptions, 131 yards, 2 TDs
Chaney (JR) - 21 receptions, 229 yards, 1 TD
McNutt (SO) - 1 reception, 11 yards, 0 TDs
Moeaki (SR) - 46 receptions, 566 yards, 7 TDs
Reisner (JR) - 13 receptions, 231 yards, 1 TD
Davis (TR FR) - nothing yet