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    Re: paul rhodes already better than danny mac??!!

    Sorry for the long post, but here are my thoughts:

    I believe CPR has assembled a better coaching staff than Mac ever did. I do think that Mac, and his efforts to build an actual football program, has a lot to do with CPR being able to do that.
    Mac laid a foundation. He made more with less talent, got us to bowl games, and was a huge motivator for not just the team, but the entire fan base. Mac was not a great game day coach. He lost many games that we should have won, and won a few that we probably should not have. I think this is because it was all about motivation and emotion for him and less about true coaching ability.
    CPR has a good record of coaching success even if he does not have head coaching experience. Hiring a very good staff is a great starting point. If Mac had as good a staff, he might still be here.
    I think the coaching staff has become even more important than the head coach in todays NCAA football. The best coaches of today surround themselves with the best staffs and that is what I believe set them apart. I am not sure if Mac ever got that. He was from the era where the head coach meant everything and motivation was the key to every game. todays NCAA is built on recruiting (done mostly by assistant coaches), X's and O's (driven by coordinators), and player developement (also mostly done by the assistants and strength staff). The head coaching role is more about being the CEO of the staff and having the ability to utilize the tools at your disposal, which includes game day decision making and motivation.
    I think Chizik was trying to be a CEO head coach, but thought he could succeed with whatever coordinators he wanted. He was mistaken. Me assembled a staff that could recruit, but is OC and DC were not up to the tasks of being Big XII coordinators. Chizik has since hired a much better staff at Auburn and will probably have better luck if he can get over himself and let the coordinators do their job.

    Overall I think CPR has the potential to be a better coach than Mac. In part, because Mac helped establish a better program.

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    Re: paul rhodes already better than danny mac??!!

    Dumb thread is dumb.

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    Re: paul rhodes already better than danny mac??!!

    I think right now it's just too early to tell. I know we all want him to be better than McCarney, because that would mean success not seen since Majors and Bruce, if not even greater success than that. He has also assembled a much better staff than McCarney has, and he has much better talent and much better facilities (with hopefully more to come) than Mac had to work with. But does that make Rhoads better than McCarney? Only time can make that judgment.
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    Re: paul rhodes already better than danny mac??!!

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Architect View Post
    Dumb thread is dumb.
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    Re: paul rhodes already better than danny mac??!!

    It's frankly too early to say whether Rhoads is better or not. However, the current evidence suggests that he's made some decent steps to that end, because he's assembled a very solid coaching staff to surround him. Of course, Dan had some good guys on his staff too (including Rhoads).

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    Re: paul rhodes already better than danny mac??!!

    Quote Originally Posted by homerHAWKeye777 View Post
    It's frankly too early to say whether Rhoads is better or not. However, the current evidence suggests that he's made some decent steps to that end, because he's assembled a very solid coaching staff to surround him. Of course, Dan had some good guys on his staff too (including Rhoads).
    Dan never had much money available to pay his staff compared to Rhoads (and Chizik).
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    Re: paul rhodes already better than danny mac??!!

    No way to tell without Rhoads coaching one game day play yet. I will say this though. Rhoads' cupboard is a little more full than what Dan walked into.
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    Re: paul rhodes already better than danny mac??!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MontyBurns View Post
    Dan never had much money available to pay his staff compared to Rhoads (and Chizik).
    Are you saying the AD has more money now than it did when Mac and Chizik each started their tenure? Gee, how did that happen?


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    Re: paul rhodes already better than danny mac??!!

    Quote Originally Posted by prdhawk View Post
    a co-worker of mine (huge cyclone fan and alum) and i were goin back and fourth today and he made a comment that cpr is right now a better head coach than dan mac ever was, i have always been a mac fan and think what he did for isu was great, so i was just wondering if the whole fanbase feels this way or my co-worker is just a nutball?
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    Re: paul rhodes already better than danny mac??!!

    I remember all the praise we bestowed upon Chizik prior to him coaching a single game as a Cyclone. He coached two undefeated defenses on two different teams after all! He had "the ring"!
    Oops. Lessons learned. Dont get me wrong, im certain Rhoads won't be like Cheese, but come on, its entirely too early for this thread.

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    Re: paul rhodes already better than danny mac??!!

    It's a bit of a myth that Dan McCarney did not have some good staffs. Steve Looney, Paul Rhoads, Chris Ash, Terry Allen, John Skladany, Bobby Elliot were all pretty good coaches. Dan's Pre 2002 coaches were pretty darn good.

    The problem he had was hanging on to them and he had problems replacing them with quality people. I'm very sure Paul Rhoads and Jamie Pollard are aware of that history and will work to see it does not happen again.

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    Re: paul rhodes already better than danny mac??!!

    Quote Originally Posted by dustinal View Post
    Are you saying the AD has more money now than it did when Mac and Chizik each started their tenure? Gee, how did that happen?
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    Re: paul rhodes already better than danny mac??!!

    Can we just let the man coach his first game ?

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    Re: paul rhodes already better than danny mac??!!

    Yeah... the comment made was pretty rediculous. It's like saying Chris Colvin, right now is a better Big 12 point guard than Will Blalock ever was.

    We've never seen Chris Colvin play for us yet, we know Blalock did some great things for us. Only time will tell... and in the end... it'll probably still be up for debate... each is good at their own things.

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    Re: paul rhodes already better than danny mac??!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCY23 View Post
    its to early to tell, and like you i am a big Dan McCarney supporter, he built ISU football from the ground up
    He did? WOW, who knew?

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