How no-huddle will influence game?

**johnsonjj** · 09-08-2009, 01:13 PM

I didn't see the Hawk/UNI game so don't know how often they like to sub in for different defensive packages. I understand one of the benefits of our no-huddle offense is to limit defensive substitutions. Thus, in theory, it should stop the shifts to nickle packages on pass plays which should benefit our spread. Alternatively, if stuck in the nickle, it should help the run with D-Rob & AA.

Did that play out last week? Do you expect it to be a factor this week? Looking for honest debate rather than just chest pumping.

**Bipolarcy** · 09-08-2009, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by johnsonjj

I didn't see the Hawk/UNI game so don't know how often they like to sub in for different defensive packages. I understand one of the benefits of our no-huddle offense is to limit defensive substitutions. Thus, in theory, it should stop the shifts to nickle packages on pass plays which should benefit our spread. Alternatively, if stuck in the nickle, it should help the run with D-Rob & AA.

Did that play out last week? Do you expect it to be a factor this week? Looking for honest debate rather than just chest pumping.

I hope it gasses the i o a defense. They were gassed against UNI and UNI huddles. This may just be a misperception, but I don't think i o a is very deep on defense, especially in the front four and secondary.

**CycloneWarning** · 09-08-2009, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by johnsonjj

I didn't see the Hawk/UNI game so don't know how often they like to sub in for different defensive packages. I understand one of the benefits of our no-huddle offense is to limit defensive substitutions. Thus, in theory, it should stop the shifts to nickle packages on pass plays which should benefit our spread. Alternatively, if stuck in the nickle, it should help the run with D-Rob & AA.

Did that play out last week? Do you expect it to be a factor this week? Looking for honest debate rather than just chest pumping.

Ties in with my question below about how Iowa plans to defense a 4 receiver set.

Based on those responses and my own guesses, sounds like Iowa will probably stay in base 4-3 defense and be willing to give up yards between the 30's. Once ISU gets in the redzone, Iowa can better afford to leave their 3 LB in the game in pass coverage and not worry as much about downfield exposure. I think that is what we saw last year in IC, and we should expect more "bend but don't break" D. They won that battle last year and ISU failed in the red zone. Red zone performance, ISU rush D, and turnovers will be the key factors again this year.

I guess bottom line, I would not expect Iowa to struggle with the no huddle since they are probably comfortable with their base D and giving up short passing game.

But I also heard that Iowa's D was gassed last week against UNI. Possibly that was just first game conditions, but maybe the no huddle can press that situation by making their LB cover a lot of space in the passing game.

**DaddyMac** · 09-08-2009, 01:23 PM

I'll also hamper any defense in getting calls in - not just personel.

The defense will have be be exceedingly reactionary and at somepoint you have to expect communication to suffer on assignments.

The key is to exploit.

**Clark** · 09-08-2009, 01:23 PM

UNI didn't really use a fast paced offense (they actually had a higher TOP than Iowa)

The fast paced offense is good for getting the offense more plays, but if unsuccessful it could force the defense to be out on the field for long stretches of time.

**Clark** · 09-08-2009, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneWarning

But I also heard that Iowa's D was gassed last week against UNI. Possibly that was just first game conditions, but maybe the no huddle can press that situation by making their LB cover a lot of space in the passing game.

The d-line was a bit gassed late in the 4th, but that was more to do with them being on the field so long and less to do with UNI's no huddle.

**keepngoal** · 09-08-2009, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Clark

The d-line was a bit gassed late in the 4th, but that was more to do with them being on the field so long and less to do with UNI's no huddle.

I agree with this... and those short passes, when completed, can make it a long day ON the field for the D.

Even the announces on the homer channel mentioned Iowas Dline was gassed.

-keep.

**d4nim4l** · 09-08-2009, 01:38 PM

Not sure how much benefit we will see from it early on. I would not be surprised to see an up tempo attack until we get to the red zone and then slow it to down to make sure we can find our holes.

However, if we stay up tempo the whole game and Iowa does not sub that much you can bet those guys will be more gassed in the 4th quarter than they were against UNI.

**CycoCyclone** · 09-08-2009, 01:41 PM

I'm hoping we hurry to the line a bit more, it doesn't count as no huddle if you still take 25 seconds to call a play.

**Clark** · 09-08-2009, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by d4nim4l

Not sure how much benefit we will see from it early on. I would not be surprised to see an up tempo attack until we get to the red zone and then slow it to down to make sure we can find our holes.

However, if we stay up tempo the whole game and Iowa does not sub that much you can bet those guys will be more gassed in the 4th quarter than they were against UNI.

How is the Iowa defense going to be gassed if they spend no more than 5 minutes on the field at any one time. I expect ISU to get crushed in the TOP. I'd be more woried about ISU's defense getting worn down.

**DaddyMac** · 09-08-2009, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by CycoCyclone

I'm hoping we hurry to the line a bit more, it doesn't count as no huddle if you still take 25 seconds to call a play.

IMO it does ..

I get what you're saying. But if you have your offense standing at the line and checking off, audibling, or standing there looking at the sideline... they're still at the line and could snap it at any moment.

Pretty hard to sub or do much else other than pay attention on D if they other side is lined up.

**ajk4st8** · 09-08-2009, 01:47 PM

We ran a no huddle offense last year. Should look similar.

**dualthreat** · 09-08-2009, 01:48 PM

Hopefully we can figure out ways to exploit their linebackers in pass coverage. I have seen Iowa use LBs to cover receivers- even on deep routes! The way they do it, it worked effectively. However, a good O Cord. should scheme around that and destroy it!

**d4nim4l** · 09-08-2009, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Clark

How is the Iowa defense going to be gassed if they spend no more than 5 minutes on the field at any one time. I expect ISU to get crushed in the TOP. I'd be more woried about ISU's defense getting worn down.

It's the constant being beat on with no rest in between plays that will wear a defense down.

Plus ask any no huddle coordinator about it and they will all say the mental game plays a big part. Get tired and get lazy mentally. Keep giving up plays while you're tried and eventually you break.

**DaddyMac** · 09-08-2009, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by dualthreat

Hopefully we can figure out ways to exploit their linebackers in pass coverage. I have seen Iowa use LBs to cover receivers- even on deep routes! The way they do it, it worked effectively. However, a good O Cord. should scheme around that and destroy it!

Where have you ever seen that happen?

BTW - BREAKOUT THE OLD SCHOOL UNIS JAMIE!