this loss it on the offense, like it or not

**chicagoCy** · 10-03-2009, 06:47 PM

i think we can agree that our defense has exceeded all expectations this yr by only givine up 21.5 pts/game. coming into this game i was still wary about our O but thought that our they would pull out of the slump they are in. our defense played great once again and stopped Kstate from scoring on some short drives, but what are we to think about our O at this point in the season. Count me as one who though we'd pull out of the slump but is now worried. where do we go from here?

**Clones21** · 10-03-2009, 06:48 PM

...what is this scary place.....

**jahfg** · 10-03-2009, 06:49 PM

Agreed.

The two fumbles were the plays of the game.

We were up 7 with the ball and playing confident. Catlett fumbles and the rest is history.

**HandSanitizer** · 10-03-2009, 06:50 PM

So true on this. Offense needs a ton of work

**Clones21** · 10-03-2009, 06:52 PM

Can someone tell me where Collin Franklin is?

**gocubs2118** · 10-03-2009, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by jahfg

Agreed.

The two fumbles were the plays of the game.

We were up 7 with the ball and playing confident. Catlett fumbles and the rest is history.

KState was also driving up 7-0, looking like they were going to score a TD before they fumbled. It works both ways. Both team got lucky and unlucky breaks.

**DaddyMac** · 10-03-2009, 06:53 PM

The only "ongoing" problem with our D that I can see is out utter lack of a pass rush.

I didn't see the first TD by KSU. But that was the problem with the second and third. Actually, the rush was ok on the third, Lyle just missed the tackle (nice move by the QB).

I think I got to 12 Mississippi counting the time KSU had to throw the ball on the second TD.

But yes - the O continues to cough up the ball, and in bad positions. And really isn't delivering alot of scoring anyway. AA seems to need about the entire first quarter to warm up, and even then his throwing is erratic. Our receivers are dropping far too many. Can't complain about our ground game, however.

**Bobber** · 10-03-2009, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by chicagoCy

i think we can agree that our defense has exceeded all expectations this yr by only givine up 21.5 pts/game. coming into this game i was still wary about our O but thought that our they would pull out of the slump they are in. our defense played great once again and stopped Kstate from scoring on some short drives, but what are we to think about our O at this point in the season. Count me as one who though we'd pull out of the slump but is now worried. where do we go from here?

Gotta agree. Not impressed with pass selection or completions. I think running game was okay today.

This was a tough one...

**gocubs2118** · 10-03-2009, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Bobber

Gotta agree. Not impressed with pass selection or completions. I think running game was okay today.

This was a tough one...

You really think that 207 yards on the ground is just "ok"?

**Bobber** · 10-03-2009, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by gocubs2118

You really think that 207 yards on the ground is just "ok"?

Actually I worded that wrong. I thought our running game was great and our passing game sucked...How do you like those bananas?

**cyclone1306** · 10-03-2009, 07:03 PM

What about the defense having the quarterback sacked and he gets free and throws a touchdown pass. That play is made and its a different game. Dont go throwing this one totally on the offense. Plays were left on the field on both sides. Its frustrating I agree. I really felt like we were in control of the game until the tight end fumbled the ball as we appeared to be moving the ball. It turned the game on that point. We also had more dropped passes. That part frustrates me.

**Bobber** · 10-03-2009, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by cyclone1306

What about the defense having the quarterback sacked and he gets free and throws a touchdown pass. That play is made and its a different game. Dont go throwing this one totally on the offense. Plays were left on the field on both sides. Its frustrating I agree. I really felt like we were in control of the game until the tight end fumbled the ball as we appeared to be moving the ball. It turned the game on that point. We also had more dropped passes. That part frustrates me.

True. Generally however I think the defense played better then expected and the offense worse. You can't have your quaterback throwing a barely 500 pass percentage and expect to win.

**chicagoCy** · 10-03-2009, 07:43 PM

"What about the defense having the quarterback sacked and he gets free and throws a touchdown pass." True, that play was huge. BUT, in spite of that, the defense still played a great game.

"I really felt like we were in control of the game until the tight end fumbled the ball as we appeared to be moving the ball. It turned the game on that point. We also had more dropped passes. That part frustrates me." This is exactly what I'm talking about and people seem to agree with. Untimely fumbles, too many dropped passes, too may mis-throws, and too many bad reads. THIS is what wories me more than anything when we thought our offense would be a STRONG POINT this season, and it's not.

**cyman1189** · 10-03-2009, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Clones21

Can someone tell me where Collin Franklin is?

wide open in the middle of the field... I mean the guy is doing jumping jacks ten yards from the line of scrimmage

**Rick** · 10-03-2009, 07:52 PM

I think AA is overthinking this offense. Herman is hopefully dumbing it down for him so it is not so overwhelming. He didnt have that bad of passes last year but if he has so much in his head that he cant think it is showing. For those of you wanting to blame Herman remember the knock on AA all along has been his tendency to lock onto other players. IMO he is thinking about this and trying not to throw int's. When he does that he throws the ball into the ground.