QUIT pounding on AA, he WILL be THE difference-maker!

['Clones Fan]

Potential does not last forever. Eventually, a guy is what he is.

[cstrunk]

AA has my support. I blame his early season struggles on having to learn another new system that is difficult for a QB to fully comprehend in his first year in it. I have faith that he will improve as the year goes on.

He has shown us what he can do (great things) in several games last season. He might not show it all this season, but if we can't get it all together this season, it will need to be together next season when the schedule becomes a monster.

[Al_4_State]

Did you get to watch Kansas last year, or Iowa this year, how about K State? Last Year: Iowa, Baylor, Nebraska?

A good qb wins more than 2 games and shows up in the big games. The guy cant win.

Uneducated? Lol? You just blindly defend this guy.

Yup. And I saw AA put three balls in a row in receivers hands that were dropped. Then he overthrew Sumrall on 4th down. Against Baylor and NU he was injured. He played like crap against Iowa and had a weak game against KSU for the most part (his only costly mistake was ironically not made passing the ball).

AA is a lot of things, but a choker isn't one. He has lead two very long drives to tie the game that ended in TDs, and one that was at the door stop. I've never seen an ISU QB do that. We didn't lose those games because of AA, we lost them due to a defensive let down (UNLV), a blocked kick (KSU), and a terrible play call (CU).

The bottom line is that QBs get too much blame or credit for wins and losses. Look at the people heaping praises on Rick Stanzi. Iowa would probably have the same record w/any other Big 10 QB (or AA for that matter). They have won games because of their defense and special teams, yet people talk about Stanzi because he is the QB. Same thing is going on the other way w/Arnaud here. We've lost some winnable games, for a lot of reasons, but he takes the brunt because he's the QB. Against Iowa, I think it was deserved, but last week there were a lot of other problems that had just as much if not more outcome on the game.

['Clones Fan]

So 3 passes are the reason that we lost. Arnaud played terrible.

Those 3 passes are probably like the ones he has thrown this year. THey bounce and then hit the reciever. I have never, not even in a high school game, seen a qb try to hit a flanker screen and consistently not hit the guy. Should be the easiest pass you can make.

Even if we had 3 drops in a row (which I cant remember, I dont have the game on dvr any longer), Arnaud did not play well in the second half, also known as crunch time. Good qbs seem to will their team to victory.

In terms of long drives that ended in TD's, did we win any of those games?

The answer, unfortunately, is no.

[Al_4_State]

So 3 passes are the reason that we lost. Arnaud played terrible.

Those 3 passes are probably like the ones he has thrown this year. THey bounce and then hit the reciever. I have never, not even in a high school game, seen a qb try to hit a flanker screen and consistently not hit the guy. Should be the easiest pass you can make.

Even if we had 3 drops in a row (which I cant remember, I dont have the game on dvr any longer), Arnaud did not play well in the second half, also known as crunch time. Good qbs seem to will their team to victory.

In terms of long drives that ended in TD's, did we win any of those games?

The answer, unfortunately, is no.

Are you ******* kidding me? He lead a brilliant drive to cut the lead to 2 points w/under 3 minutes left. If that isn't performing in crunch time, I don't know what is. Crunch time is about the only time Arnaud has been consistent. And we had 3 DROPS in a row. Not bounce passes. Drops. Hit the receiver in the hands. 2 were to Houston Jones.

I'm not blindly defending Arnaud. This year's Iowa game is completely on him. He threw 4 picks, all of which lead to Iowa scores. That's clearly on his shoulders. He is only completing a little above 50%. That needs to improve by a good 10%. He has the physical tools to be much better, and his teams need him to play that way.

However it's clear that you have a vendetta, and are incapable of viewing this situation objectively at all.

[Al_4_State]

So 3 passes are the reason that we lost. Arnaud played terrible.

Those 3 passes are probably like the ones he has thrown this year. THey bounce and then hit the reciever. I have never, not even in a high school game, seen a qb try to hit a flanker screen and consistently not hit the guy. Should be the easiest pass you can make.

Even if we had 3 drops in a row (which I cant remember, I dont have the game on dvr any longer), Arnaud did not play well in the second half, also known as crunch time. Good qbs seem to will their team to victory.

In terms of long drives that ended in TD's, did we win any of those games?

The answer, unfortunately, is no.

What more does he need to do? Kick the PATs? Play defense? The idea that the QB just wills the entire team to wins is so incredibly ludicrous. A QB can effect the offense, he can fire up his team mates and lead, but it's up to them to follow. You're blind hate is ridiculous.

[letsgostate]

AA has my support. I blame his early season struggles on having to learn another new system that is difficult for a QB to fully comprehend in his first year in it. I have faith that he will improve as the year goes on.

He has shown us what he can do (great things) in several games last season. He might not show it all this season, but if we can't get it all together this season, it will need to be together next season when the schedule becomes a monster.

We are one game from the halfway point in the season. It will be very difficult to watch the kind of quarterback we've seen the rest of this season, let alone into next year. In sports, if a player doesn't perform, another one gets a chance. Stars are made that way. I've been at every game. Our quarterback isn't the only problem, but it certainly is the biggest one.

[ketelmeister]

Should Iowa have stuck with Jake Christensen? Stanzi was an untested freshman redshirt.

[JustRedman]

I just hope that in 2 years, when AA has thrown his last pass, I don't have the same "Bret Meyer" taste in my mouth.
I went into this season with optimism that AA would put up some good #s, but almost 1/2 way through the season he hasn't improved at all. I really thought that QB and WR were the least of our concerns.

[swammi]

Granted AA has been better in the past. Also, granted he hit the rock bottom completing 13 out of 27 passes against KSU. However, I am not giving up on this kid. He had to learn 3 systems with 3 coaches. Our new offense is, by far, the hardest system to get used to. I have a feeling AA will turn it around. He can throw the ball, he just needs a LOT of support from Cyclone Nation. Let's try to stay positive and help him learn from making mistakes.

Tiller is NOT the choice for us, not YET anyway. It's Arnaud's game to lose every week, we need his confidence back to win big 12 games. He will get it back with a positive attitude from all of us. Let's give it to him when he needs it the MOST!

OK, I almost like that. How about this: " It's Arnaud's game to WIN every week."

[geek4cy]

So, learning these new offenses has caused him not to look at other receivers? He has always looked at one receiver, and then ran if he is covered. This is not from the new system, this is the way he is.

[bellzisu]

Should Iowa have stuck with Jake Christensen? Stanzi was an untested freshman redshirt.

First time in a long time I actually agree with you.... No one knew what you were getting when the Stanzi for Jake switch happened. A year later it looks like a great move in my opinion.

Tiller might not be ready. But how do we know unless he gets more then 1 series at Kent State with the 1st string.

I'm not calling for a change in starters, but maybe Tiller getting a series or two.

Plus.... I thought the whole Stanzi vs Austin thread was laughable at the beginning of the season. After what has happened so far....... I'm willing to see the comparison and arguement.

[Tre4ISU]

Did you get to watch Kansas last year, or Iowa this year, how about K State? Last Year: Iowa, Baylor, Nebraska?

A good qb wins more than 2 games and shows up in the big games. The guy cant win.

Uneducated? Lol? You just blindly defend this guy.

How many of these do you want me to dispell. I can do all right now I guess.
Kansas-Did he not lead us on a TD drive late in the fourth to give us a last chance after an onside? Also, did he give up all those points in the second half? I didn't think so.

Iowa this year-Ok, he may have cost us the game but we don't know that and I would say that is the only game I remember him costing us.

KSU-Uh, 4th quarter drive, no picks, 3 drops, a 55 yard touchdown on a scramble, a blocked PAT.

Iowa LY-He didn't allow a punt return for a TD. After that he never really hada chance to do anything late in the game.

Baylor-He was hurt that game and I don't think he was the reason anyway. Our defense got shredded.

Nebraska-Really? What about the defense.

Colorado- I added this one because you probably don't remember but he led us on a long drive at the end of the game and put us in position to score if it hadn't been for a **** poor play call.
Go ahead and try and argue these games. The games we lost last year were largely on the defense and there inability to cover anyone.

[Tre4ISU]

Tiller is most certainly not ready. 2 picks and seven completions. Now had he come into the Iowa game and been impressive this may be different.

[Tre4ISU]

Should Iowa have stuck with Jake Christensen? Stanzi was an untested freshman redshirt.

True, but they also run a different offense that takes a lot of pressure off the QB and they had Greene.