All State of Iowa Team

**TarHeelHawk** · 10-21-2009, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by clones_jer

Every completed pass Seneca & Sage throw in the NFL keeps adding to how much better they are at the top of level of the sport than Long was.

Originally Posted by Gonzo

So using your logic, Ladell Betts easily makes that team instead of Troy Davis.

Originally Posted by TarHeelHawk

Well, when you consider the o-line that Betts had to run behind....well, that's a bad argument, because Davis did it all by himself as well.

Originally Posted by Gonzo

Doesn't really matter. Every 5-yard carry for Betts puts further distance between him and Davis at the highest level of the game.

**clones_jer** · 10-21-2009, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by Gonzo

Not saying it to be a troll. Just being honest. You tell me how many TEs ISU has put into the NFL.

How many has Iowa?

**TarHeelHawk** · 10-21-2009, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by clones_jer

How many has Iowa?

Brandon Myers got drafted last year...Dallas Clark obviously...TonyMo will get drafted next year, even with his injury history. Hell, even Scott Chandler is on a practice squad this year.

Do you really want to get into a debate about the number of players each school has to the pros recently?

**Gonzo** · 10-21-2009, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by clones_jer

How many has Iowa?

2009 - Brandon Myers
2007 - Scott Chandler
2005 - Tony Jackson
2004 - Erik Jensen
2003 - Dallas Clark
2000 - Austin Wheatley
1996 - Scott Slutzker
1991 - Michael Titley
1989 - Marv Cook
1985 - Jonathan Hayes

Looks like ISU did put a half-dozen or so TEs into the NFL between 1971 and 2002, which I wasn't aware of. So I do stand corrected.

**Bigguns** · 10-22-2009, 12:31 AM

I would go with 2 TE's and go with Mike Bush along with Clark

**Bigguns** · 10-22-2009, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by Gonzo

Doesn't really matter. Every 5-yard carry for Betts puts further distance between him and Davis at the highest level of the game.

I would take Ennis Haywood over Betts. Marcus Robertson at Safety.

**clones_jer** · 10-22-2009, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Gonzo

2009 - Brandon Myers
2007 - Scott Chandler
2005 - Tony Jackson
2004 - Erik Jensen
2003 - Dallas Clark
2000 - Austin Wheatley
1996 - Scott Slutzker
1991 - Michael Titley
1989 - Marv Cook
1985 - Jonathan Hayes

Looks like ISU did put a half-dozen or so TEs into the NFL between 1971 and 2002, which I wasn't aware of. So I do stand corrected.

Is Myer still on a roster?

Chandler, Wheatley, & Titley saw a combined 4 games with no stats for their career.

Jackson, Jensen, and Titley aren't even listed as having played a minute in an NFL game.

Clark, Cook, & Hayes are really the only TEs of note in your list. Granted they are/were all very good with Dallas obviously the topping of the list soon barring injury.

**TarHeelHawk** · 10-22-2009, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by clones_jer

Is Myer still on a roster?

Chandler, Wheatley, & Titley saw a combined 4 games with no stats for their career.

Jackson, Jensen, and Titley aren't even listed as having played a minute in an NFL game.

Clark, Cook, & Hayes are really the only TEs of note in your list. Granted they are/were all very good with Dallas obviously the topping of the list soon barring injury.

You didn't ask about how many saw playing time, or how much. You asked how many TE's Iowa had put into the NFL.

**GriffClones** · 10-22-2009, 10:45 AM

Has anybody mentioned Johnny Bright from Drake at RB? If you don't know who he is than shame on you!

**CycloneJoe** · 10-22-2009, 10:51 AM

QB Randy Duncan
RB Dwayne Crutchfied
RB Nile Kinnick
TE Dallas Clark
OL Robert Gallery
OL Keith Sims
OL Calvin Jones
OL John Alt
OL Mike Goff
WR Ronnie Harmon
WR Dedrick Ward
P Reggie Roby

DE Bryce Paup
DL Alex Karras
DL Mike Stensrud
DE Andre Tippett
LB Chad Greenway
LB Matt Blair
LB Larry Station
DB Ellis Hobbs
DB Bob Sanders
DB Paul Krause
DB Merton Hanks
K Nate Keading

**spyclone** · 10-22-2009, 10:54 AM

I was going to post my list based on my OPINION.

But clearly, this thread has become an opportunity just to argue with others that have a different opinion.

mostly by folks who didn't even offer up a list!

Each list is the personal opinion of the poster.

yours will vary.

doesn't make either opinion wrong.

because there are no wrong answers.

rather, there shouldn't be.

**CycloneJoe** · 10-22-2009, 11:01 AM

Gonzo

2009 - Brandon Myers on the raiders
2007 - Scott Chandler off and on rosters 1 game is all i see
2005 - Tony Jackson raiders preseason no stats regular
2004 - Erik Jensen 1 year rams no catches
2003 - Dallas Clark stud
2000 - Austin Wheatley 4 games for the Saints
1996 - Scott Slutzker played a few years
1991 - Michael Titley back and forth from nfl europe
1989 - Marv Cook pro bowls
1985 - Jonathan Hayes dang good player

Mike Flagg was really good never made the NFL

**Gonzo** · 10-22-2009, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by clones_jer

Is Myer still on a roster?

Chandler, Wheatley, & Titley saw a combined 4 games with no stats for their career.

Jackson, Jensen, and Titley aren't even listed as having played a minute in an NFL game.

Clark, Cook, & Hayes are really the only TEs of note in your list. Granted they are/were all very good with Dallas obviously the topping of the list soon barring injury.

Exactly my point. They probably wouldn't have even been drafted if it weren't for Iowa and they way the program utilizes the TE. Not Iowa's fault their NFL careers didn't pan out. Iowa put them in a position where they were drafted and had their shot. That was my original point, had Dallas Clark gone to ISU, a system not known for producing or utilizing TEs effectively, he may not have even been drafted. Then you got all huffy.

**galactawitz** · 10-22-2009, 11:21 AM

I like a lot of the initial teams. I was just wondering, if we're going for NFL success do does Darren Sproles count since he is an Iowan, or is it just the Iowa teams were talking about?