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    Re: Interesting Grant Mahoney Stat

    Quote Originally Posted by coachdags View Post
    Mahoney is not missing kicks, he is having his kicks blocked. There is a big difference. Snap, hold, angle, trajectory have all been fine. He need the interior line to Block and not give ground.
    What about the two extra points in Lawrence? Or the three field goals he missed against Baylor?

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    Re: Interesting Grant Mahoney Stat

    Quote Originally Posted by mwitt View Post
    What about the two extra points in Lawrence? Or the three field goals he missed against Baylor?
    Oh, so you expect him to be perfect.......

    Well thats a different situation, We better hold kicker try outs then....

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    Re: Interesting Grant Mahoney Stat

    Quote Originally Posted by coachdags View Post
    Mahoney is not missing kicks, he is having his kicks blocked. There is a big difference. Snap, hold, angle, trajectory have all been fine. He need the interior line to Block and not give ground.

    Unless you guys expect him to kick curve balls around the rushing defensive lines hands...
    Missed three at Baylor, also at Kansas State. Also, getting a PAT blocked is on the kicker. Can't be kicking line drives, especially on PATs
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    Re: Interesting Grant Mahoney Stat

    Quote Originally Posted by coachdags View Post
    Oh, so you expect him to be perfect.......

    Well thats a different situation, We better hold kicker try outs then....
    No said he has to be perfect but missing 3 FG's in ONE game is far from being that. And there is just no excuse for missing an extra point.

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    Re: Interesting Grant Mahoney Stat

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    I think we need some better blocking on our kick attempts rather than a different kicker.
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    Re: Interesting Grant Mahoney Stat

    Quote Originally Posted by coachdags View Post
    Oh, so you expect him to be perfect.......

    Well thats a different situation, We better hold kicker try outs then....
    What are you talking about? You said that Mahoney isn't missing kicks -- it's the fault of the blocking. I pointed out five kicks he flat out missed in two games.

    I believe we have failed on five extra points this season. That is a big deal.

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    Re: Interesting Grant Mahoney Stat

    If he starts his approach a bit earlier it will help a lot, but the interior line has GOT to do a better job of blocking. The kicks may be a little low, but they are far from looking like Tennessee's kicks. If Mahoney kicks a fraction earlier and the line gets the blocks better, Mahoney will not miss many kicks.

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    Re: Interesting Grant Mahoney Stat

    Quote Originally Posted by mwitt View Post
    What are you talking about? You said that Mahoney isn't missing kicks -- it's the fault of the blocking. I pointed out five kicks he flat out missed in two games.

    I believe we have failed on five extra points this season. That is a big deal.

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    Re: Interesting Grant Mahoney Stat

    Quote Originally Posted by mwitt View Post

    I believe we have failed on five extra points this season. That is a big deal.

    18-22 extra points (2 blocked)...... 10-16 on FG's (1 blocked that I know of)

    I'm done you guys argue....have fun.

    I think Grant Mahoney is a fine kicker. When everything else is executed around him.

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    Re: Interesting Grant Mahoney Stat

    Quote Originally Posted by woodie View Post
    we need to snap it deeper on extra points so he can get it up in the air so it will not be blocked.
    You can't do that. Then you get them blocked around the edge. There's a reason they do 7 yards.

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    Re: Interesting Grant Mahoney Stat

    Quote Originally Posted by Racer68 View Post
    Suit up.
    Well, that wouldn't do much good. I suck. But when I miss five kicks, I wouldn't expect someone on an internet message board claim that I haven't.

    I trust that Mahoney is the best kicker on our team.

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    Re: Interesting Grant Mahoney Stat

    Quote Originally Posted by woodie View Post
    we need to snap it deeper on extra points so he can get it up in the air so it will not be blocked.
    Is there some kind of rule about how deep the holder has to be on field goal/PAT tries?? If it is a PAT or short/medium field goal, why not snap it a few yards deeper to give the ball more height by the time it reaches the line of scrimmage??

    As for who is really to blame - the linemen or the kicker, I think it has been a little of both on the blocked kicks. There has been a little too much penetration, where the line is at fault. However, with the great offensive line that we have, do you really think it is their fault every time? Mahoney needs to be getting more air underneath those kicks, mainly the short ones. The defense shouldn't be able to get their paws on a PAT so often.

    Anyways, I'd really like to hear about where the holder is supposed to line up and if it can be changed....

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    Re: Interesting Grant Mahoney Stat

    Quote Originally Posted by coachdags View Post
    Mahoney is not missing kicks, he is having his kicks blocked. There is a big difference. Snap, hold, angle, trajectory have all been fine. He need the interior line to Block and not give ground.

    Unless you guys expect him to kick curve balls around the rushing defensive lines hands...
    I worded this poorly, It should read Mahoney is having more of a problem with blocked kicks then misses...That is my opinion

    Here are his stats...

    FIELD GOALS FGM-FGA Pct 01-19.. 20-29.. 30-39.. 40-49.. 50-99.. Lg Blk
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    Mahoney,Grant 10-16....62.5 0-0 ..... 1-1..... 4-6 ... 2-4 ... 3-5... 52 ...1

    FG SEQUENCE Iowa State
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    North Dakota State ...(38),57,(50)
    Iowa .........................(46)
    Kent State................. (20),(37)
    Army......................... (50),41
    Kansas State.............. (32)
    Kansas....................... (34) -
    Baylor......................... 50,(45),35,30
    Nebraska.................... (52),49

    Numbers in (parentheses) indicate field goal was made.

    as you can see he made 6 of his 1st 7 missing only a 57 yarder against NDSU. He had a miss against Army, and a Bad Day at Baylor. His 18-22 extra points with 2 blocked (imo) is not bad, but then I do not expect him to be perfect....

    Can anyone tell me the surfaces he has kicked off of (Baylor) the conditions of the surface, has he had the same snapper and holder on every attempt or have their been injuries to them or himself...

    Until someone can answer all these questions, I think it is unfair to blame Grant Mahoney the individual.

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    Re: Interesting Grant Mahoney Stat

    I got faith in my buddy Grant, if your line learns to block for 1.5 seconds he won't miss many his leg is getting stronger all the time he just needs to keep his confidence up, that's tough when your getting the ball batted back in your face every other kick(I know this is an exaggeration)
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    Re: Interesting Grant Mahoney Stat

    Mahoney is the best kicker on the roster.

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