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    Re: Bowl Payouts

    Rich keep getting (a lot) richer and poor stay really poor.

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    Re: Bowl Payouts

    Does anyone actually have the bowl revenue sharing info for the conference?
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    Re: Bowl Payouts

    Quote Originally Posted by vmbplayer View Post
    Does anyone actually have the bowl revenue sharing info for the conference?
    I haven't found the actual bowl revenue sharing, but here is some general revenue sharing info from 07-08:

    how the big 12 teams rank in revenue sharing funds
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    Re: Bowl Payouts

    Quote Originally Posted by vmbplayer View Post
    Does anyone actually have the bowl revenue sharing info for the conference?
    2.4 Bowl Game Revenue. All revenue from Member Institutions participating in football
    bowl games shall be divided equally among all Member Institutions, after predetermined
    expense allowances have been deducted. The formula set forth as Appendix V shall
    be used to calculate the predetermined expense allowances and is incorporated herein
    by reference as through fully set forth.
    2.5 Football Championship Event Revenue. All net revenue pursuant to the Conference
    football championship game and related activities will be divided equally among the
    Member Institutions.

    From the big 12 handbook:

    Big 12 Handbook-PDF
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    Re: Bowl Payouts

    Quote Originally Posted by jsmith86 View Post
    2.4 Bowl Game Revenue. All revenue from Member Institutions participating in football
    bowl games shall be divided equally among all Member Institutions, after predetermined
    expense allowances have been deducted. The formula set forth as Appendix V shall
    be used to calculate the predetermined expense allowances and is incorporated herein
    by reference as through fully set forth.
    2.5 Football Championship Event Revenue. All net revenue pursuant to the Conference
    football championship game and related activities will be divided equally among the
    Member Institutions.

    From the big 12 handbook:

    Big 12 Handbook-PDF
    from that, this is the key information:

    EXPENSE FORMULA:
    The following institutional expense allowances will be provided for bowl participants:
    Tier I: Bowl Championship Series
    National Championship Game
    Expenses................................................... $1,630,000
    Travel..............................................$300/one-way mi
    All other Bowl Championship Series Games
    Expenses................................................... $1,610,000
    Travel..............................................$300/one-way mi
    Tier II: Cotton, Holiday, Gator, Alamo, Sun, Insight
    Expenses................................................... $1,000,000
    Travel..............................................$300/one-way mi
    Tier III: Independence, Texas (or substitute bowl)
    Expenses...................................................... $680,000
    Travel..............................................$300/one-way mi

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    Re: Bowl Payouts

    I still don't get why Cyclone fans wouldn't want to be in the Big Ten. There are so many reasons to want to be in that conference. Our natural rival is in that conference, there is more money involved, and the conference has more television sets as well. No one in the Big 12 considers us a rival anyway, and they can schedule non-conference games with us in any sport if they wish to continue playing the Cyclones. A lot of the reason people have this sentiment is because, "Iowa's there," well, Iowa being there is making them richer and richer, while Iowa State being in the Big 12 is keeping them towards the bottom. It is always said that all Iowa State needs is a coach like Hayden Fry who changes the culture, but with the conference we are in, we can only grow about half as much as the Hawkeyes did in the 1980s because of the very strong Southern influence on Big 12 policy making. A winning coach (Paul Rhoads) and a change of scenery (Big Ten) is exactly what Iowa State needs.

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    Re: Bowl Payouts

    Quote Originally Posted by Haverhill View Post
    I still don't get why Cyclone fans wouldn't want to be in the Big Ten. There are so many reasons to want to be in that conference. Our natural rival is in that conference, there is more money involved, and the conference has more television sets as well. No one in the Big 12 considers us a rival anyway, and they can schedule non-conference games with us in any sport if they wish to continue playing the Cyclones. A lot of the reason people have this sentiment is because, "Iowa's there," well, Iowa being there is making them richer and richer, while Iowa State being in the Big 12 is keeping them towards the bottom. It is always said that all Iowa State needs is a coach like Hayden Fry who changes the culture, but with the conference we are in, we can only grow about half as much as the Hawkeyes did in the 1980s because of the very strong Southern influence on Big 12 policy making. A winning coach (Paul Rhoads) and a change of scenery (Big Ten) is exactly what Iowa State needs.






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    Fact of it is, even if ISU fans wanted to go big 10, the big 10 doesnt want us. We bring nothing to the table for them. No additional tv audience, no tradition as a power football school.

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    "The schools that earn the most money are the ones who appear for football TV games and basketball nonconference games."

    NOW we know why we have no coverage hardly

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    Re: Bowl Payouts

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave19642006 View Post
    "The schools that earn the most money are the ones who appear for football TV games and basketball nonconference games."

    NOW we know why we have no coverage hardly
    We can't earn more money unless we're on TV.

    We can't get on TV until we're more competitive.

    We can't be more competitive unless we earn more money.

    What a wonderful Catch-22.

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    Just win - it will solve all problems

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    Re: Bowl Payouts

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman View Post
    We can't earn more money unless we're on TV.

    We can't get on TV until we're more competitive.

    We can't be more competitive unless we earn more money.

    What a wonderful Catch-22.

    and we do this by playing mediocre teams or worse in bowl games reason I want the INDY bowl game instead of Houston. I believe in getting the team to move up not flatline

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    Re: Bowl Payouts

    Under the expense formula, we would actually be paid slightly more from the conference going to houston, since the distance is slightly farther. (our expenses might be slightly higher as well, but interesting to note)

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