Taz. Good points. I didn't mean to put words in your mouth in regards to the Shaggy more clutch than Mahoney....etc. I don't know if I would take Saturday's decision to not kick at 48 yeard FG is the rule yet. As far as the put, asking him to kick a 31 yd punt is a lil difficult with the wind at his back, letting Austen do it was probably our best opportunity to keep it out of the end zone.
Numbers can be distorted to tell a story. I know I work with numbers all day!
I breath A LOT easier when Mahoney comes onto the field than I ever did when Shaggy kicked. Mahoney has been solid his first year, other than a bad couple game stretch beginning with the KU game. Range with a kicker is a big deal. Also kicking in pressure situations is a BIG deal. Making FG's when your down by 20 doesn't mean a whole lot.
I think we have a solid kicker the next 2 years in Ames & agree with the original poster that Mahoney is the best kicker ISU has had in a while.
The numbers ARE NOT DISTORTED. Going into his senior season, Shaggy was better than any Lou Groza finalist inside of 42 yds and had similar numbers outside. I remember a couple of those finalist had also missed pressure kicks in their bowl games. Shaggy didn't make field goals when we were down by 20. Most of the field goals he made were in close games. My how peoples memories are short. Take the time to go back and look because your memory isn't all that good. You remember Mizzou, KU, NU and that is it. Two of which were outside his range. Go back and see how many close games we had in 04-06. One could say that Shaggy was responsible for getting us to a bowl game in 04' because prior to him taking over the kicking duties we were 3-11 on field goals that year. We couldn't even make extra points. Shaggy took over aginst CU that year. After that he missed one field goal and every game was close EVERY SINGLE GAME. Without him we don't make a bowl game that year.
Mahoney hasn't struggled for a couple of games. It has been 5 games now. And you bring up pressure and kicking when down by 20? Mahoney was good last year when we were down by 20. Not so much this year or last year in close games. Talk about distorting numbers. He has not had to perform under pressure yet. No game winners. the closest he has been to pressure is close games where he has struggled.
Like I said, I am confident that Mahoney will get better but to say Shaggy sucked is ridiculous. He was limited in length but was absolute money inside of 42 yards. And for people to discredit his first season is also ridiculous. Not to mention his accuracy the next year.
No it started with someone saying Mahoney is the BEST KICKER WE HAVE HAD IN A LONG TIME. Right now Shaggy and Mahoney's careers are very similar. That simple.
Culbertson was a very solid kicker for us and had he made the kick versus Missouri, I don't think anyone would question his credentials to the degree some do. Just one miss we really needed probably has skewed his career.
I am concerned the Mahoney ball does not appear to gain height quickly as some kickers. Some people can kick extra points high, some kick them in the medium height range. He needs to still kick them higher when we have a bull rush against us for extra points and chip shots fieldgoals. This is fixable.
Looking forward to CFH magic for the next bball season, Georges style.
If it's true that Guyer is redshirting, I couldn't imagine waiting FOUR years only to be the kicker for one year. And that wouldn't even be guaranteed for him... seems a tad ridiculous to me.
The thing is with any position, even kickers, the backup is one play away from being the starter. We have had occasions inthe past where our starting kicker was injured and well below 100%. We had no capable backup and the injured kicker was forced into duty causing our special teams to be "less than special". I am all for having multiple scholarship level kickers on the team at a time, and a couple good walkons too if possible. I want the days of bad Cyclone kickers to be over.
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