Jerry Palm on Matt & Miller

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Originally Posted by Bader

I find it hard to believe there is now a rule that states something along the lines of

"The BCS must include one Non-AQ team per year".

They may well have removed the only one Non-AQ per year stipulation, but I do not believe the reverse is true. Not only would that eliminate the idea of a Non Automatic Qualifier, but it sets up for some possibly horrible bowl games.

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You are correct:

3. The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:
A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or,
B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.


Again I reference this website: CFB - - FOX Sports on MSN

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Originally Posted by Tornado man

I sure wouldn't want them if I was a bowl director - they've averaged just 37,500 fans at home this year.

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Yeah, I can understand why they wouldn't want them from a money standpoint (which honestly seems like all they care about), but they have earned the right to play in one in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by cycloneworld

According to Palm, the Fiesta will definitely take Oklahoma State if they are eligible. If they lose to OU, then it could be Penn State or Iowa.

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Doesn't that mean if they beat Oklahoma? If that's what he means, then I think Iowa is still very much in the running for the Fiesta.

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Originally Posted by Tornado man

I sure wouldn't want them if I was a bowl director - they've averaged just 37,500 fans at home this year.

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Well, that's what Cincinatti averages, but it's also how big their stadium is. Their crowd last weekend was a school record, and it was just over 35K. I can't imagine that wherever TCU is very big.

The BCS is going to be a ratings disaster this year, probably for everyone. The Sugar Bowl (who picks last) is going to suck.

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Originally Posted by TarHeelHawk

Well, that's what Cincinatti averages, but it's also how big their stadium is. Their crowd last weekend was a school record, and it was just over 35K. I can't imagine that wherever TCU is very big.

The BCS is going to be a ratings disaster this year, probably for everyone. The Sugar Bowl (who picks last) is going to suck.

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TCU drew 50,000, which I assume is capacity, for Utah last week


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As long as the bowls have to generate income and sell tickets on their own, you're going to have the big names and the large fan followings being favored.
Only a revenue sharing system would encourage bowl picks to be fair.

Maybe I'm not interpreting the rules correctly, but wouldn't Iowa have to finish in the top 14 to even be considered for an at large?

Does anyone else think it's a possibility that Penn State jumps them in the rankings if they win big against Michigan State? Any chance Stanford jumps them if they win out against #25 Cal and Notre Dame?

Not predicting or cheering for one thing or the other. Just curious if anyone else thinks this is a possibility...

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Originally Posted by Bader

You have to be #16 or higher to even be considered (see Illinois' Rose Bowl...) and only 1 non-AQ team a year can play in a BCS bowl

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Actually I believe the bowls could choose both non-BCS schools if they qualify. They are required to take one though.

My change to the rule would be I you are a conference champ in the bcs top 12 then you are automatically in or you are in the top four as an at large. After that they could choose conference champs not in the top 12 or at large in the top 16

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Originally Posted by Dolokaju

Actually I believe the bowls could choose both non-BCS schools if they qualify. They are required to take one though.

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Huh, I misinterpreted the only one non-AQ part of the selection process it seems.

Only one non BCS conference champ can be selected as an automatic qualifier. Someone else laid out the requirements for that earlier in the thread.

Apparently another non-AQ school can still get into the BCS bowls as an at-large bid.

So you could possibly have Boise getting in automatically as the WAC champ and higher than #12 in the BCS. TCU could get in as an at large since it has at least 9 wins and is higher than #14 in the BCS.

The More You Know

Palm said Iowa is not in competition with Oklahoma State, they are competing against Penn State. He was adament about taking 2 teams from the Big 10 and Big 12 if eligible...primarily because of TV ratings.

There is very little chance Iowa or Penn State would face OkieSt because the Orange Bowl would pick up the Big 10 team with the next selection.

Everyone root for OSU to beat OU this weekend as it would bump us up a spot in the Big 12 bowls.

Palm made it sound like if both PSU and Iowa win this weekend that PSU would get the nod over Iowa because of the large tv audience PSU brings to the table.

I just can't wait for a playoff. Would be a great year for it too, I think TCU and Boise could really match up this season. While the top 3 are very good, these teams have not really been a dominating force.

The BCS selecting a non-AQ school is simple.

The highest non-AQ school automatically gets in if they are above #8 in the BCS standings. This year that would be TCU.

That leaves Boise in a conundrum. Either they get selected as an at-large over a BCS school, they make an at-large for another bowl (last year) or they end up at home in the Humanitarian Bowl. Which would not be against a Big XII school as that affiliation no longer exists.

The only way Boise St plays a Big XII school in Boise this year is if the conference that is tied to that bowl (ACC?) does not have enough eligible participants.

My take on the bowls would be this...

National Championship - Florida (SEC champ) vs Texas (Big XII champ)
Rose Bowl - Oregon (Pac 10 champ) vs Ohio St (Big 10 champ)
Fiesta Bowl - Oklahoma St (At-large) vs TCU (Highest non-AQ)
Sugar Bowl - Alabama vs Cincinnati (Big East champ)
Orange Bowl - Georgia Tech (ACC champ) vs Penn St (At-large)

Not sure on selection order but I do not see the Sugar Bowl taking Georgia Tech after being thrashed by LSU last year in the Chick Fil A Bowl. That puts them in the Orange, which is coveting a Big 10 team too. I could see Cincinnati and Penn St switching spots though. Which would give a more "traditional" matchup of Alabama and Penn St in the Sugar Bowl.

i think the system is actually working out this year once things are all said and done IMO.

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Originally Posted by nickwc

i think the system is actually working out this year once things are all said and done IMO.

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The system could leave out the #5 team in the country...an undefeated Boise State team just because of a stupid rule that only 1 non-BCS team has to be selected. There will likely be 5 undefeated teams this year (could have been six but some conferences choose to play a championship game while others do not) and only 2 of those teams have a shot at a national title.

The system could also select a Penn State team who is behind Iowa in the BCS standings and who LOST to Iowa at home all because they have more TV sets in their state.

Yep, the system is working perfectly...

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Originally Posted by cycloneworld

The system could leave out the #5 team in the country...an undefeated Boise State team just because of a stupid rule that only 1 non-BCS team has to be selected. There will likely be 5 undefeated teams this year (could have been six but some conferences choose to play a championship game while others do not) and only 2 of those teams have a shot at a national title.

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Which would creat a bowl game beat down where Boise could name the score... That's entertaining.