Pollard....11,000 est crowd for ISU?

**Al_4_State** · 12-30-2009, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Cyclone_Grav

I think 8300 sold through ISU is pretty good considering that it is cheaper to go through the bowl game itself or through something like stub hub. I still think that ISU brings 15000 people. I think that people want to go to this game badly but it was expensive so they went for the cheapest tickets possible, which is why ISU hasnt sold its tickets.

I think distance from Iowa and a poor economy haven't helped things either.

st8 · 12-30-2009, 10:44 AM

but where does the expected 45k+ number come from?

**theyork** · 12-30-2009, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by besserheimerphat

My parents took my little brother to the DSM airport yesterday morning, and when they got back they said that the place was packed with people sporting ISU gear heading to the game.

good news--airport filled with isu fans
bad news--that airport is TINY and would be jam packed with a small number of people

**desertbound** · 12-30-2009, 10:51 AM

I was at last year's KU/Minnesota game. I think they claimed 45,000 for that game, but the stadium wasn't that full. Most of the seats filled were in the lower level. Still, we probably need to accept that this is a mid-level bowl with two 6-6 teams. Outside of us, it doesn't generate a lot of excitement. Given that, I think people will be surprised with the number of ISU fans who got their tickets other than through the university. I really do believe we'll have a good showing. I'm planning to be there!!!

**MontyBurns** · 12-30-2009, 11:05 AM

If 8,300 tickets were sold thru the ISU ticket office, I expect there will be 15-20k ISU fans there. Given the pricing difference and knowing what seats you will get if you bought direct from the bowl or from stubhub, you have to expect lots of fans went for the better value and buy from someplace other than the ISU ticket office.

**TheHelgo** · 12-30-2009, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by MontyBurns

If 8,300 tickets were sold thru the ISU ticket office, I expect there will be 15-20k ISU fans there. Given the pricing difference and knowing what seats you will get if you bought direct from the bowl or from stubhub, you have to expect lots of fans went for the better value and buy from someplace other than the ISU ticket office.

so....what is JP talking about with his 11K estimate?

**MontyBurns** · 12-30-2009, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by TheHelgo

so....what is JP talking about with his 11K estimate?

Who knows. But of the people I know who are going, the vast majority -- probably 20 out of 24 -- bought tickets from sources other than the ISU ticket office. I don't know why he thinks ISU fans only bought 3000 tickets from all the other sources. Maybe he is in denial that fans will go for value instead of buying the tickets he told them to buy.

**ISU4Life** · 12-30-2009, 12:03 PM

You would think there would be a good walk up crowd of snow birds from Iowa that still might not have purchased tickets yet

**Prone2Clone** · 12-30-2009, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by ISU4Life

You would think there would be a good walk up crowd of snow birds from Iowa that still might not have purchased tickets yet

Agree...what else do they have to do? You can only play some many rounds of golf and shop at so many Native American trinket stores in your life.

**HGPuck** · 12-30-2009, 12:56 PM

My best guess is that the 3k estimate is from other sources that the bowl can track, direct from the bowl website and its corporate sponsors. The bowl has a preliminary estimate on those tickets and reports it to our athletic department. I highly doubt either the bowl reps or our department would venture to guess the number of tickets bought through stubhub and the like. So a guess of 15+ thousand ISU fans there sounds reasonable to me.

**ajk4st8** · 12-30-2009, 12:57 PM

11000 would be pretty freaking amazing for a cross country bowl game for a team that is 6-6.

**Jeremy** · 12-30-2009, 01:04 PM

I find it very hard to believe that 3,000 were sold to ISU fans in other ways and I think Pollard's hype machine is going to be called out when game time rolls around. He can sell very well to the media but this is one case where he promised 15-20K would show up and if only 10K do, he deserves to be called out.

Yes, I know that he was hoping the fans would step up, but it's a fricken nightmare economy out there for a lot of people and overstating things can only lead to dissapointment that will hurt us in the future for bowl invites.

10-12K would still be decent considering the .500 record and the economy.

**jaretac** · 12-30-2009, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by st8

8,300 (sold through ISU)
+3,000 (sold through other outlets)
+1,000 (minnesota fans)
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= 45,000, what's wrong with you larry, it's simple addition!

and how many people in the Phoenix area might show up just to watch a football game? I know that if there was a bowl game just down the road between two BCS schools I would show up even if I didn't cheer for either team.

**Jeremy** · 12-30-2009, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by jaretac

and how many people in the Phoenix area might show up just to watch a football game? I know that if there was a bowl game just down the road between two BCS schools I would show up even if I didn't cheer for either team.

The Phoenix area is notorius for not being great at showing up to games. Arizona State for instance typically has a bad showing if anything else is going on anywhere in the valley.

**ajk4st8** · 12-30-2009, 01:11 PM

I dont care if only 25 people show up. It will be great to watch the Clones one more time!

I went to both Shreveport and Houston games and I would expect the exact same following to those games in Phoenix.

10-12k ISU fans.... that seems to be a pretty consistent number for us and NOBODY should be surprised.

Who cares how many fans JP said would go ot the game. He helped get us in a better game than we all expected.