Re: Nebraska and Pac 10 Seem To Hold The Cards
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JY07
Why? how is picking a team from each of these four 16-team groupings any more effective than just picking the top 4 or 8 teams in the nation? besides benefiting the weakest of the four conferences every year?
Because in my opinion, and by the way it is an opinion I expressed on boards nearly a year ago (well before any of this realignment talk surfaced), there eventually will be more than four Super Conferences.
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Nebraska has nocards , Pollack from hawkeye nation says noway Nebraska comes to big10
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TEXAS HOLDS ALL THE CARDS A ROYAL FLUSH!! THEY CONTROL THE WHOLE DEAL
Re: Nebraska and Pac 10 Seem To Hold The Cards
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jbhtexas
NU is holding an Ace, 2, 4, 6, and 7. What would you do with that hand in a game of straight up draw poker with no wilds and all the drawing is done???
suited?
(agree, NU isn't sitting in the best spot right now)
Re: Nebraska and Pac 10 Seem To Hold The Cards
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DaddyMac
suited?
I think only if Osborne and Perlman are colorblind and have trouble distinguishing geometric shapes...
Re: Nebraska and Pac 10 Seem To Hold The Cards
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jbhtexas
I think only if Osborne and Perlman are colorblind and have trouble distinquishing geometric shapes...
Is Osborne still alive ? my god last time I seen him he looked terrrible
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Definitely agree with jdogg. If the Big 10 can force ND into the league with the threat of 16 team superconferences and a national playoff system to annihilate the BCS, they'll come out smelling like a rose. Nebraska and Mizzou will stop ******* in the wind and Texas politely declines the Pac 10's invitation.
Re: Nebraska and Pac 10 Seem To Hold The Cards
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DaddyMac
I think NU is really kinda screwed.
They don't seem to have an offer in hand from the Big 10 and 4 days til they have to make a commitment to the Big XII. What do they do?
There doesn't seem to be any urgency for Texas to move. They almost certainly are content with the as-is of the Big XII. In fact, if what you say is true about Baylor and CU, they still have that wrangling to do with the Pac 10. But if NU bolts, they head to the Pac 10. Seems they're safe either way with only Baylor at risk.
The only one under the gun right now is NU (and Mizzou who nobody really cares about)
Who's to say Nebraska can't tell the Big 12 they are committed and then leave? Sure Nebraska would have to pay back some of their TV revenue, but if the Big Ten wants them they will pay that for Nebraska.
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hawkeyescott
Who's to say Nebraska can't tell the Big 12 they are committed and then leave? Sure Nebraska would have to pay back some of their TV revenue, but if the Big Ten wants them they will pay that for Nebraska.
It was mentioned elsewhere that this commitment would probably come with some legal-ese.
That makes sense. Suppose it depends on the cost.
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DaddyMac
It was mentioned elsewhere that this commitment would probably come with some legal-ese.
That makes sense. Suppose it depends on the cost.
That makes a lot more sense then, I'm sure the penalty may even be a little more severe if they say they are committed and then do leave.
Re: Nebraska and Pac 10 Seem To Hold The Cards
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DaddyMac
suited?
(agree, NU isn't sitting in the best spot right now)
Believe me, DaddyMac, Tom Osborne has been in many, many pressure-packed situations in his career and he doesn't seem to be the least bit concerned about the situation Nebraska is in at this point. He said, very early-on in the process that neither he nor the University were sitting on the sidelines waiting to see what was going to happen (ala Geoffrey and Pollard) and that he would be very pro-active with regards to what Nebraska was going to do. There is no question in my mind that if a Big 10 offer doesn't come (which I am convinced it will no matter what Notre Dame decides), he has contingency plans in place. In spite of what some CFers may think, Nebraska is still seen as a major player in the college footbal landscape.
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Wingback
Believe me, DaddyMac, Tom Osborne has been in many, many pressure-packed situations in his career and he doesn't seem to be the least bit concerned about the situation Nebraska is in at this point. He said, very early-on in the process that neither he nor the University were sitting on the sidelines waiting to see what was going to happen (ala Geoffrey and Pollard) and that he would be very pro-active with regards to what Nebraska was going to do. There is no question in my mind that if a Big 10 offer doesn't come (which I am convinced it will no matter what Notre Dame decides), he has contingency plans in place. In spite of what some CFers may think, Nebraska is still seen as a major player in the college footbal landscape.
Nobody is saying they aren't a player, nor a desireable target for expansion (at least I'm not). I don't think they are quite as desireable as many Huskers think they are, but whatever.
What I'm saying is that I think they're between a rock and a hard-place. A looming deadline with the Big XII and an extended timeline with the Big 10 who has yet to make an offer and not to anxious to do anything.
Now there's alot of caveats to that position. Perhaps Osborne has solid assurances from the Big 10 that NU is in - and he's willing to go on that alone. Perhaps the Big XII "ultimatum" has no teeth and he finds acceptable to commit today.... backout tomorrow. Probably another 50 scenarios.
TO and NU will need to be pro-active, it seems NU is pretty alone in the college football landscape in having to make a decision today.
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DaddyMac
Nobody is saying they aren't a player, nor a desireable target for expansion (at least I'm not). I don't think they are quite as desireable as many Huskers think they are, but whatever.
What I'm saying is that I think they're between a rock and a hard-place. A looming deadline with the Big XII and an extended timeline with the Big 10 who has yet to make an offer and not to anxious to do anything.
Now there's alot of caveats to that position. Perhaps Osborne has solid assurances from the Big 10 that NU is in - and he's willing to go on that alone. Perhaps the Big XII "ultimatum" has no teeth and he finds acceptable to commit today.... backout tomorrow. Probably another 50 scenarios.
TO and NU will need to be pro-active, it seems NU is pretty alone in the college football landscape in having to make a decision today.
I would say that both of these most likely are true, DaddyMac. I believe, and always have believed, that the WHB story of a week or so ago is essentially accurate, but the Big 10 had to deny it for a number of "face saving" reasons. I also have always believed that the Big 12 ultimatum is a lot of Beebee "hot air." He needs Nebraska in order to keep the conference in tact and he knows it. There will be a lot of "saber rattling" but none of it means anything. If Beebee holds one ounce of sway in any of this, why hasn't he had stern discussions with Texas. He knows there is absolutely nothing he can do except hold on for the ride and update his resume at this point.
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[QUOTE=jdoggivjc;1747375]Not entirely true.
The most powerful hands in this realignment game of cards is:
1. Notre Dame
2. Texas
3. Big 10
4. Nebraska
5. Pac 10
6. OU/A&M
Notre Dame gets #1 because Armageddon comes to a screeching halt if they accede to joining the Big 10.
you think if ND goes to BIG 10 then the PAC 10 wont take anyone from the Big 12? Interesting, but i think the Pac 10 is making the offer regardless.
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Wingback
I would say that both of these most likely are true, DaddyMac. I believe, and always have believed, that the WHB story of a week or so ago is essentially accurate, but the Big 10 had to deny it for a number of "face saving" reasons. I also have always believed that the Big 12 ultimatum is a lot of Beebee "hot air." He needs Nebraska in order to keep the conference in tact and he knows it. There will be a lot of "saber rattling" but none of it means anything. If Beebee holds one ounce of sway in any of this, why hasn't he had stern discussions with Texas. He knows there is absolutely nothing he can do except hold on for the ride and update his resume at this point.
Well, I have little doubt that there's been contact between the two. Perhaps even a gentlemen's agreement. Wouldn't surprise me in the least.
And as mentioned elsewhere, the ultimatum is from the rest of the conference presidents, not so much Beebe. However, fact is that the majority of the rest of the conference have another seat in the game of musical chairs - namely the Pac10 idea.
They tell Mizzou and NU to commit or else. NU and Mizzou do - Conference goes forward, Texas still runs the show and everyone falls in line. NU and Mizzou don't - it's their fault for breaking up the conference and the south walks away feeling pretty good about themselves claiming innocence in all this.
Not to mention, one would think/hope/expect/be dillusional enough to believe .. that Beebe is being proactive with FSN and a new TV commitment to secure the future of the conference and avoid all this. Certainly he would need to know the players to make that happen.
So it appears that NU is having to act ahead of everyone else. If you consider that pro-active, so be it. I don't find it to be a particularly enviable position - again not knowing what is in place with the Big 10.