Iowa: Drop vs. Keep revisited

[Incyte]

If you believe CPR will make us a B12 contender, then we don't need an additional patsy win to make a bowl. There are a lot of people who can make it to Ames or Iowa City nearly every year but can't make it to a bowl game every year the Cyclones play in one. Why not keep the game and give people something to get excited about and possibly entice those on the fence to buy season tickets?

If you think running from the Iowa/ISU rivalry (and, yes, it is a rivalry) with our tail between our legs will give you a world without Squawkeyes, I want some of what you are smoking. The rhetoric that we endure from our "friends" to the east will be ramped up even more - and without the opportunity to refute it with "scoreboard" once in a while!

KEEP!

You really need to stop obsessing about what U of I fans think of our program. It's kind of sad.

If dropping the U of I game is best for our program and if the U of I doesn't want to play it anyway, both AD's should just announce it's going on hiatus for a while.

[Al_4_State]

Anytime people say they'd rather go 5-7 and not go to a bowl just to play this game it's an obsession.

Absolutely. I'd rather go 8-4 not playing Iowa than to go 6-6 playing them.

[VeloClone]

At what point did I suggest scheduling a patsy in place of Iowa? Personally I'd like to see us play Wisconsin.

If you care what Iowa fans think and say you are obsessed. Free your mind, forget Iowa.

I do care what recruits from the state of Iowa or any recruit who may be considering Iowa and Iowa State think and hear.

If you think a good rivalry is not a healthy thing for any team, you are in a very small minority.

Despite whatever you say, caring about your in state rivalry =/= obsession.

[benjay]

Anytime people say they'd rather go 5-7 and not go to a bowl just to play this game it's an obsession.

I'm willing to risk a loss to play the game. Then again, isn't every game a risk? Why obsess over this one?

[VeloClone]

You really need to stop obsessing about what U of I fans think of our program. It's kind of sad.

If dropping the U of I game is best for our program and if the U of I doesn't want to play it anyway, both AD's should just announce it's going on hiatus for a while.

I'm not the one who brought up a world without Hawkeyes. I was just pointing out that no game against Iowa =/= a world without Hawkeyes.

[benjay]

Absolutely. I'd rather go 8-4 not playing Iowa than to go 6-6 playing them.

So having Iowa on the schedule will actually cause us to lose 2 games instead of 1? That's fresh.

[VeloClone]

Absolutely. I'd rather go 8-4 not playing Iowa than to go 6-6 playing them.

I'm confused how not playing Iowa (1 game) will result in a swing of 2 games on the ole record???

[weR138]

I do care what recruits from the state of Iowa or any recruit who may be considering Iowa and Iowa State think and hear.

If you think a good rivalry is not a healthy thing for any team, you are in a very small minority.

Despite whatever you say, caring about your in state rivalry =/= obsession.

I never said this. I think an intense rivalry with any conference foe is exponentially more valuable than one with Iowa. Recruits want to play for a winner. We don't have to play Iowa to win B12 championships.

Not caring about U of I =/= weakness.

[HILLCYD]

Haven't read the thread, but since when is Iowa not a beatable opponent?

[tazclone]

Absolutely. I'd rather go 8-4 not playing Iowa than to go 6-6 playing them.

why not go 8-4by beating them AND go to a bowl. You people act like they are unbeatable and that we will win every game in the preseason if we replaaced them. Here is a news flash...in the last ten years we have been beaten by UNI, toledo, Kent St, UNLV, Northern Illinois, UConn(before they were respectable), etc, etc, etc.
And how many ofthose games were televised? Hmmm. We get TV revenue, we get national exposure, we have an opportunity to beat a quality opponent, hmmm.

[weR138]

I'm not the one who brought up a world without Hawkeyes. I was just pointing out that no game against Iowa =/= a world without Hawkeyes.

So then if we don't play Iowa we still play Iowa???

[VeloClone]

I never said this. I think an intense rivalry with any conference foe is exponentially more valuable than one with Iowa. Recruits want to play for a winner. We don't have to play Iowa to win B12 championships.

Not caring about U of I =/= weakness.

I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. However, what conference foe do we have as intense a rivalry as we have with Iowa? None. By my measurement, Iowa is our only true rivalry in football. You can't contrive a rivalry. It is what it is.

[benjay]

Haven't read the thread, but since when is Iowa not a beatable opponent?

Do you really want to be 5-7 instead of 6-6 mister? Because playing Iowa will be costing us low-tier bowl games in the future.

[weR138]

Haven't read the thread, but since when is Iowa not a beatable opponent?

Since when does one have to do with the other? I fully expect CPR to build the Cyclones into a team that could beat Iowa every year; that doesn't mean I think we need to prove it every year.

[tazclone]

Obviously you've never attended a football game at Memorial Stadium in Lincoln. Fanbases that have great programs don't need a particular rival to get up for.

And yes, I'm seriously not obsessed with the Iowa Hawkeyes. I have no desire to see ISU play them in any sport. I do have a desire to see CPR build ISU into a perennial B12 contender which has absolutely nothing to do with U of I.

that fanbase had decades of success, is the only game in the state, and has no other D1 schools in the state. big diference.

BTW- The atmosphere in Lincoln is completely different then the atmosphere for the Iowa/ ISU game. completely different