Cy-Hawk Team

**cayin** · 07-08-2010, 12:39 PM

Check out the CyHawk team from Miller and Deace on KXNO's site. Iowa had 10 of the 11 defensive starters. The only one I disagree with is they did not have David Sims. Greenwood and Sash were the safety's. The only bright spots for ISU was ARob and 3 O-line starters.

**Clonehomer** · 07-08-2010, 12:44 PM

Can't really argue with a lot of their decisions. The only area that Iowa looks weak at on the defense is LB and we're looking at three new starters ourselves. Also, some of our best players were hurt last year like Money, Parker and Benton so it's really hard to put them on the team when you didn't see much of them last year.

**Cyhart** · 07-08-2010, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by cayin

Check out the CyHawk team from Miller and Deace on KXNO's site. Iowa had 10 of the 11 defensive starters. The only one I disagree with is they did not have David Sims. Greenwood and Sash were the safety's. The only bright spots for ISU was ARob and 3 O-line starters.

Yeah, I heard that this morning. I too think you absolutely have to find a way to get Simms in there. I expect him to be even better this year.

Imagine if we still had Haughton. I know we will still have a good line, but think about what it could have been! I hate "what-ifs". Which I why I despise injuries so much. Id rather flat out suck than have a "what if".

**Tedcyclone** · 07-08-2010, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by cayin

Check out the CyHawk team from Miller and Deace on KXNO's site. Iowa had 10 of the 11 defensive starters. The only one I disagree with is they did not have David Sims. Greenwood and Sash were the safety's. The only bright spots for ISU was ARob and 3 O-line starters.

heard this morning as well... Id trade Greenway for David Sims, and I would trade Koulionhos sp? for one of our other Wide Receivers, thats it.

i think our linebackers are good, as well as benton etc... but they havnt really done anything of note yet...

**cayin** · 07-08-2010, 01:05 PM

Sash and Greenwood had a front 7 in front of them that made their jobs easier. If Sims was on Iowa's team he would beat one of them out for the starting spot. Huge miss on their part. IMO, Sims is the best safety among the two rosters.

**Clark** · 07-08-2010, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by cayin

Sash and Greenwood had a front 7 in front of them that made their jobs easier. If Sims was on Iowa's team he would beat one of them out for the starting spot. Huge miss on their part. IMO, Sims is the best safety among the two rosters.

It wasn't really a miss because both agreed he was a better player than Greenwood but they went with Greenwood because him and Sash play so well together as a unit. I don't agree with it necessarily, but that was their thought process.

**CycloneWanderer** · 07-08-2010, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Clark

It wasn't really a miss because both agreed he was a better player than Greenwood but they went with Greenwood because him and Sash play so well together as a unit. I don't agree with it necessarily, but that was their thought process.

That is as stupid a reason as I've heard. Someone should point out that Sims has not been given the opportunity to play with either of Iowa's safeties. He could reasonably play better "as a unit" with either of the other safeties. If they think Greenwood plays so well with Sash, imagine how well Sims could play with Sash. For goodness sakes, these lists are supposed to be made off of achievements, not hypothetical scenarios. If you go that route, your list is pure BS because you can make up hypothetical arguments for starting anyone.

**hwkwyld** · 07-08-2010, 01:46 PM

Here's the list via KXNO and Miller's reasoning for Greenwood over Sims via Hawkeye Nation

QB: Rick Stanzi: Proven leader, late game deliveries, 18-4 as starter
RB: Alexander Robinson: Underrated by national talking heads and publications
WR: DJK
WR: Marvin McNutt
WR: Darius Reynolds: Steve said one of Reynolds, Darius Darks or Sed Johnson
TE: Colin Franklin
OL: Riley Reiff, Julian Vandervelde, Kelechi Osemele, Alex Alvarez and Ben Lamaak

DE: Adrian Clayborn
DE: Broderick Binns
DL: Christian Ballard
DL: Karl Klug
LB: Jeff Tarpinian
LB: Tyler Nielsen
LB: Jeremiha Hunter
CB: Leonard Johnson
CB: Shaun Prater
FS: Brett Greenwood
SS: Tyler Sash

15 Hawkeyes, 7 Cyclones

Returners: L Johnson, David Sims, DJK
PK: Daniel Murray
P: Ryan Donahue

Des Moines' Sports Station - 1460 KXNO

FS: Brett Greenwood: David Sims is not going to start at strong safety over Tyler Sash, but Deace felt he was good enough to be in the top four on the back end. But Greenwood will be a third year starter for Iowa and while Sims may shine brighter individually, Greenwood is as cagey veteran and gets the nod. - Jon Miller

The Cy-Hawk Team | Hawkeye Nation

**CarolinaCy** · 07-08-2010, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Clark

It wasn't really a miss because both agreed he was a better player than Greenwood but they went with Greenwood because him and Sash play so well together as a unit. I don't agree with it necessarily, but that was their thought process.

Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of making such an "all-star" team? By that logic, all of Iowa's defense should be listed, because they play better as a unit than ISU defense.

Anyway, Sims is every bit as good as Sash. Just because Sash was the recipient of a half dozen or so gifts from AA last year doesn't make him a better player.