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    Re: 2010 ISU Football Scholarship Depth

    This is just speculation on my part, but I think eventually, Bennett will move to LB, and both Hollis and Mattison will move to safety.

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    Re: 2010 ISU Football Scholarship Depth

    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    I guess the things that stood out to me the most were....

    1. We are a very young team overall. Not much red on there. That's good.

    2. Our oldest position on the team is probably safety?

    3. We have too many RBs right now for a one back offense. Is there any way that someone like Blankenship or Woody would go to LB... or Hollis to safety? I think Hollis was a good safety in HS. Blankenship is probably too short for LB. I don't know about Woody? But 7 RBs in a one back offense seems like way too many to me?
    Woody is 2nd on the depth chart at RB. He got a lot of hype during the spring. Why would you move him?

    After ARob is gone, we are going to need a lot of RB to replace his production until someone takes control of the position.

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    Re: 2010 ISU Football Scholarship Depth

    Quote Originally Posted by xboxfever View Post
    When did Jeff Woody get a scholarship? Unless he just recently received one, he shouldn't be listed. Also, Powell and Kuehl are not scholarship players.
    Please try to stay with us here. This has already been brought up and addressed. Do you really need to ask it again?

    And no... as I stated, I have no idea where Adrian Bennett will end up. But he is really the only DB with the size that could be moved to LB... a position that we could desperately need more depth. I thought it made some sense? Obviously he will most likely be a safety at this point though.

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    Re: 2010 ISU Football Scholarship Depth

    Quote Originally Posted by ribsnwhiskey View Post
    Woody is 2nd on the depth chart at RB. He got a lot of hype during the spring. Why would you move him?

    After ARob is gone, we are going to need a lot of RB to replace his production until someone takes control of the position.
    I'm just pointing to the fact that we have 7 scholarship RBs, if you include Woody who will be getting one soon I'm sure. We play with a one back offense. So that is a 7 to 1 ratio of available guys to how many can start.

    If we had that same ratio for LBs... we'd need 21 scholarship LBs. For OL, we'd need 35 scholarship O-linemen.

    So... I'm just saying that we are limited in the number of scholarships we can hand out. Do we need 7 RBs? I think that is a very fair question to ask? I think we could use some more D-linemen, but that's just my opinion. I think it's something we can discuss and have fun with though?

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    Re: 2010 ISU Football Scholarship Depth

    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    Attached is something I put together to look at our scholarship depth at each position.

    Red coloring indicates Seniors. Yellow is Juniors. Dark Green is Sophmores. Lighter green is redshirt Freshmen. And the lightest green is true freshmen. Kind of an interesting look at what we have.

    Let me know if this works? I've never done an attachment before on here.
    That gives us a great look by position. Thanks for doing that and sharing. The thing that jumps off the paper at me is DB. We need a big class of talent this year at both safety and corner. OL is lloking pretty good - need to keep it looking that way. We talked about Tiller's potential at RB above. He needs to stay right where he is, at QB. The most important skills are not physical. The number one skill required is decision making and number 1a is leadership. I thought he did OK in Lincoln last year on a very limited basis. With a few added pounds of muscle, he could really be a good one for us. And coach has set it up for a pretty seamless transition. In terms of physical skill required, we are thinnest at DE. No 6-4 / 260 guys to be found. We need to recruit a little taller for that position.
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    Depending on how Jared Barnett looks coming into next spring, I really think Tiller might have a future at another position. God, I'd love to see him at WR.
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    Re: 2010 ISU Football Scholarship Depth

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    Depending on how Jared Barnett looks coming into next spring, I really think Tiller might have a future at another position. God, I'd love to see him at WR.
    Jerome Tiller "could", and I emphasize the word "could" because I have no idea how good James Capello or Jared Barnett are, but Tiller could be the next Austin Flynn IMO.

    Tiller and Flynn are both incredible athletes, but possibly not best suited for the QB position. It's still too early to tell with Tiller of course, but it is a possibility. But it's no argument that these two are tremendous athletes. Tiller might be the best overall athlete on the team? He's fast, he's strong (he's on a lot of the weightlifting achievment charts), he can jump, he's elusive, etc. On top of that, Flynn and Tiller are great leaders.

    So.... IF Tiller ever gets beat out at QB, I think the staff will have no choice but to move Tiller to WR. He's too good of an athlete and too good of a leader to be holding a clipboard. Same as Flynn. I hope Tiller ends up being a great QB for us. He's unbelievably explosive as a runner, he just needs more consistency with his throws. But if not, I think he'd also be an AMAZING WR as well.

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    Re: 2010 ISU Football Scholarship Depth

    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    Jerome Tiller "could", and I emphasize the word "could" because I have no idea how good James Capello or Jared Barnett are, but Tiller could be the next Austin Flynn IMO.

    Tiller and Flynn are both incredible athletes, but possibly not best suited for the QB position. It's still too early to tell with Tiller of course, but it is a possibility. But it's no argument that these two are tremendous athletes. Tiller might be the best overall athlete on the team? He's fast, he's strong (he's on a lot of the weightlifting achievment charts), he can jump, he's elusive, etc. On top of that, Flynn and Tiller are great leaders.

    So.... IF Tiller ever gets beat out at QB, I think the staff will have no choice but to move Tiller to WR. He's too good of an athlete and too good of a leader to be holding a clipboard. Same as Flynn. I hope Tiller ends up being a great QB for us. He's unbelievably explosive as a runner, he just needs more consistency with his throws. But if not, I think he'd also be an AMAZING WR as well.
    In my perfect world, Tiller would be doing the Kerry Meier thing this fall. Take snaps in practice at the QB spot, and playing WR in games, while slated as the #2 QB. That way he doesn't rot on the bench, but he's still our back up QB.
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    Re: 2010 ISU Football Scholarship Depth

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    In my perfect world, Tiller would be doing the Kerry Meier thing this fall. Take snaps in practice at the QB spot, and playing WR in games, while slated as the #2 QB. That way he doesn't rot on the bench, but he's still our back up QB.
    I'd like that as well. As long as he's up for it and can stay sharp at QB in case he's needed to step in?

    But I agree, Tiller's too valuable to be standing on the sideline. He's just too good. One of our best athletes. I say get him on the field as much as you can, unless you have zero confidence in Capello and Barnett as your backup? Because the problem occurs if Tiller gets injured playing WR. If so, you have to be very confident that either Capello or Barnett are good enough to step in. That would be the question?

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    Re: 2010 ISU Football Scholarship Depth

    Quote Originally Posted by Clone9 View Post
    To me this highlights the biggest weakness of the team - the defensive line. We have all known this for quite some time, but it really shows on paper. Unless we see some dramatic improvements from the young guys (which we very well might), then it'll be a while until our defense can be close to dominant.
    Theres 8 upperclassmen in the rotation and ISU will lose 3 to graduation next spring. Also looks like at least 2 sophs will see some serious action this fall. Its not a great situation, but its not as bad as its ALWAYS made out to be here.
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