Rony Nelson to redshirt 2010

**ahaselhu** · 08-05-2010, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclone06

Sounds like the Big 12 wants him to focus on academics for the year to prove he belongs. Graduating from a CC in 3 semesters when you were no where near qualifying out of highschool has raised a red flag it seems. Would the Big 12 do this if it were an Oklahoma player? I say no, but atleast they are giving him a chance rather than flat out denile which I expected.

I share the frustration about how we always seemed to get hosed by these decisions, but the most likely reason that this doesn't happen at places like Oklahoma and Texas is that they just don't bring in as many players in questionable situations. They just offer a different 4-star athlete instead.

**Clonegrad07** · 08-05-2010, 03:52 PM

This sucks... I wonder what the real story is here?

**Cyclone06** · 08-05-2010, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Clonegrad07

This sucks... I wonder what the real story is here?

Read the article linked by Steve above. I think Rony is the same situation. He was enrolled, and then when it was determined some credit was improperly counted, it was reported, he was kept out of practice, a waiver was requested, and Rony took a summer class to make up for the credit that was improperly counted. Based on the article about the Neb bball player it seems the big 12 had grounds to not let Rony play for ISU ever, since he was enrolled without being technically eligible. I think the redshirt is a compromise all parties involved can be comfortable with.

Edit: Atleast I hope Rony is comfotable enough with it to stick it out for 3 more years. Maybe not the timeline he envisioned but all is not lost!

**Tre4ISU** · 08-05-2010, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by cyclonenate

How much bigger did Neal get in the offseason?

I think only 4 lbs but his body transformation was very significant.

As for this deal I don't know how you can be eligible yet not be able to play but you can redshirt. I don't get it.

**sdcyfan** · 08-05-2010, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclone06

Read the article linked by Steve above. I think Rony is the same situation. He was enrolled, and then when it was determined some credit was improperly counted, it was reported, he was kept out of practice, a waiver was requested, and Rony took a summer class to make up for the credit that was improperly counted. Based on the article about the Neb bball player it seems the big 12 had grounds to not let Rony play for ISU ever, since he was enrolled without being technically eligible. I think the redshirt is a compromise all parties involved can be comfortable with.

Edit: Atleast I hope Rony is comfotable enough with it to stick it out for 3 more years. Maybe not the timeline he envisioned but all is not lost!

so does rony have two years to play after his redshirt year? i thought i saw somewhere he already used his redshirt year.

**Omaha Cy** · 08-05-2010, 05:48 PM

If he stays focused and stay with the team....and then still has 2 years left to play it can only be good for ISU. Same with Reynolds....Having him the next 2 season could be huge.

**CycloneErik** · 08-05-2010, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by ahaselhu

I share the frustration about how we always seemed to get hosed by these decisions, but the most likely reason that this doesn't happen at places like Oklahoma and Texas is that they just don't bring in as many players in questionable situations. They just offer a different 4-star athlete instead.

Touche. That could be a good explanation.

I'm glad that Rony still gets two years, but it has to stink knowing that he did what he was supposed to do and still doesn't get the reward. Nobody likes being in that situation.

**hoosman** · 08-05-2010, 06:02 PM

This is not a good thing at all. We have a juco who is barely academically eligible transferring into a very tough university and he has to show academic improvement. If he wasn't a good student as a juco, how is he going to survive 2 semesters on an academic tightrope at ISU? We needed help right away on our DL - which is our weakest area.

Didn't Haughton come here as a juco?

**IcSyU** · 08-05-2010, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by hoosman

This is not a good thing at all. We have a juco who is barely academically eligible transferring into a very tough university and he has to show academic improvement. If he wasn't a good student as a juco, how is he going to survive 2 semesters on an academic tightrope at ISU? We needed help right away on our DL - which is our weakest area.

You do realize this is the university that somehow got Troy Davis through correct?

And how many football players take very tough classes? Slim to none. He'll have music 102, geology 100, etc. and his tutors will do his homework for him.

**azn4cy** · 08-05-2010, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

Based on the Roburt Sallie situation with Nebraska, it's a positive outcome that he was even allowed to enroll at ISU. The regulating bodies might have some non-sense rules, but they didn't single out ISU in this case.

Nebraska Basketball: The Tale of Roburt Sallie | Bleacher Report

Holy crap. That guy is still eligible? I saw him play at Memphis.. now he's transferring to Louisville. Dude is like a college bball free agent.

**Aclone** · 08-05-2010, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by hoosman

Didn't Haughton come here as a juco?

No.

the way I look at this, CPR has a great start on his January enrollees....

**clonedude** · 08-05-2010, 07:35 PM

This will really hurt our depth a ton. But, if he can make it back, it will be better for him and ISU in the long run because he'll be more Big 12 ready in a year.

If I had to wager everything I own though... I bet we never see Rony in a Cyclone uniform. I just don't see it happening. But I hope I'm proven wrong.

As for our defense... I don't think I've ever seen an ISU football team with this little depth at DE and LB. LB especially. We have one guy... Lattimer... that basically is the backup at all 3 spots IMO. And he also has to be a backup at DE too. Basically because we have nobody else that is ready right now. We have 3 new starting LBs... and one backup that can play if one of them gets hurt. That's it. I don't think Jeremiah George or CJ Morgan are ready yet.

At DE... we have Maggitt and Moore... and Lattimer if needed. Nobody else is ready. In fact, I don't think Moore is ready yet either.

I love this coaching staff, but I cannot for the life of me understand why we've neglected the DL and LB positions so badly? And don't tell me that it's hard to find recruits for these positions. As someone else mentioned recently... UNI has had better D-lines than us the past few years... and that's the truth. If UNI can recruit these positions, we should be able to. Get it done! We don't need 20 WRs and 7 RBs.

**RustShack** · 08-05-2010, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by clonedude

If I had to wager everything I own though... I bet we never see Rony in a Cyclone uniform. I just don't see it happening. But I hope I'm proven wrong.

Hes already in a practice uniform. Why would he quit? Hes living in Ames now and still going to school. He did a good job during the summer here, why can't he still do it during the year?

**83Clone** · 08-05-2010, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclone06

Sounds like the Big 12 wants him to focus on academics for the year to prove he belongs. Graduating from a CC in 3 semesters when you were no where near qualifying out of highschool has raised a red flag it seems. Would the Big 12 do this if it were an Oklahoma player? I say no, but atleast they are giving him a chance rather than flat out denile which I expected.

Ding Ding Ding. This is the reason. I have it on very good authority

**Tre4ISU** · 08-05-2010, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by RustShack

Hes already in a practice uniform. Why would he quit? Hes living in Ames now and still going to school. He did a good job during the summer here, why can't he still do it during the year?

Yeah. He wouldn't get on a team now and the earliest he could play is next year. It would make no sense for him to leave. I would assume he is on scholarship now.