Iowa State and Iowa: Swap Schedules

**edr247** · 08-09-2010, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by headington

Iowa state would beat Arizona. They did get killed by a team that iowa state beat. Neb. And with a upset with osu, iowa state would win the big ten

Hell, if you can beat OSU, you'd probably be going undefeated in the Big 10, as on paper they look terrifying (strong on defense and offense). And if you can win Arizona on the road, I don't think you'll be losing any other non-con games. So, that'll essentially put you in the NCG...

**nileo** · 08-09-2010, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

They struggle at home with Arkansas State/UNI/Northwestern/etc., but you think they're going to walk into Norman or Austin and win? Stoops has lost 3 times in Norman since he took over at Oklahoma, and Texas' defense would swarm Iowa's offense. I'm not sure I see Iowa at double digits wins before a bowl game.

A win is a win. Iowa was 11-2 last year. I think they are a better team this year. OU will be tough, Iowa 'could' lose there, but Texas is not as good as advertised for the 2010 season. I think the only reason iowa loses to OU would be b/c it would be played in Norman. I don't care if they struggled at home against Ark State and UNI....i'd kill for an 11-2 year, no matter how ugly it looked.

**WalkingCY** · 08-09-2010, 03:53 PM

No way would Iowa win at OU and Texas back to back.

Iowa sucks.

**edr247** · 08-09-2010, 04:03 PM

I really can't see Iowa facing down OU AND Texas on the road. Even if we assume Iowa's luck on the road held up this year, the only tough road games we had back to back last year were Wisconsin and MSU. And I really don't think those compare to playing AT OU and AT Texas, who both have home win percentages in the 90s.

**Al_4_State** · 08-09-2010, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by nileo

A win is a win. Iowa was 11-2 last year. I think they are a better team this year. OU will be tough, Iowa 'could' lose there, but Texas is not as good as advertised for the 2010 season. I think the only reason iowa loses to OU would be b/c it would be played in Norman. I don't care if they struggled at home against Ark State and UNI....i'd kill for an 11-2 year, no matter how ugly it looked.

I think we all would.

That said, I think Iowa is just not on the level of Texas and OU. Who did they beat that was very good? Wisconsin is probably the best. They beat a lot of above average teams, but none that were bordering on great. That includes Georgia Tech. There is a reason Paul Johnson doesn't win bowl games, and it's because that offense is easy to stop when people get a month, as opposed to a week.

Iowa would most likely, IMHO be 9-3 with our schedule, which is only one game off the 10-2 I think they'll get with their own.

**edr247** · 08-09-2010, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Al_4_State

I think we all would.

That said, I think Iowa is just not on the level of Texas and OU. Who did they beat that was very good? Wisconsin is probably the best. They beat a lot of above average teams, but none that were bordering on great. That includes Georgia Tech. There is a reason Paul Johnson doesn't win bowl games, and it's because that offense is easy to stop when people get a month, as opposed to a week.

Iowa would most likely, IMHO be 9-3 with our schedule, which is only one game off the 10-2 I think they'll get with their own.

Considering Iowa took OSU to overtime at the Shoe, and beat Penn State in Happy Valley I think they have an shot at either OU or Texas.

It's unlikely they walk out of those games with a win, but I think a good Iowa team could play with an equally matched Texas team, or OU team. Now, how well Texas rebounds after losing McCoy or OU without Bradford, I really don't know, but I think OU probably will do it better (Landry already started the previous year).

**cyrocksmypants** · 08-09-2010, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by edr247

Considering Iowa took OSU to overtime at the Shoe, and beat Penn State in Happy Valley I think they have an shot at either OU or Texas.

It's unlikely they walk out of those games with a win, but I think a good Iowa team could play with an equally matched Texas team, or OU team. Now, how well Texas rebounds after losing McCoy or OU without Bradford, I really don't know, but I think OU probably will do it better (Landry already started the previous year).

People said that about Texas after Vince Young left, too. And after Chris Simms. And after Major Applewhite...

The problem with that argument is that it really doesn't matter who Texas lines up at QB, because chances are, they're 3rd stringer is probably better than three-quarters of the starting quarterbacks in the country.

**M3MEPLEASE** · 08-09-2010, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by cyrocksmypants

People said that about Texas after Vince Young left, too. And after Chris Simms. And after Major Applewhite...

The problem with that argument is that it really doesn't matter who Texas lines up at QB, because chances are, they're 3rd stringer is probably better than three-quarters of the starting quarterbacks in the country.

Didn't a 6-6 team Iowa look pretty evenly matched(and probably should have won) against a Texas team with McCoy starting his first season? Texas is not going to be a powerhouse team this season. Oklahoma, maybe.

**M3MEPLEASE** · 08-09-2010, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by Al_4_State

I think we all would.

That said, I think Iowa is just not on the level of Texas and OU. Who did they beat that was very good? Wisconsin is probably the best. They beat a lot of above average teams, but none that were bordering on great. That includes Georgia Tech. There is a reason Paul Johnson doesn't win bowl games, and it's because that offense is easy to stop when people get a month, as opposed to a week.

Iowa would most likely, IMHO be 9-3 with our schedule, which is only one game off the 10-2 I think they'll get with their own.

If the teams Iowa beat were only "above average" but not "very good", then what "great" teams did Texas beat?

The reason Johnson hasn't won a bowl game is because he has gone up against two fantastic defenses. Why is it that Navy won their bowl game?

**cyrocksmypants** · 08-09-2010, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by M3MEPLEASE

Didn't a 6-6 team Iowa look pretty evenly matched(and probably should have won) against a Texas team with McCoy starting his first season? Texas is not going to be a powerhouse team this season. Oklahoma, maybe.

Yeah, you're right that Iowa team did lose to a Texas team that was completely not motivated to play in such a low-tier game for them.

**azn4cy** · 08-09-2010, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by M3MEPLEASE

If the teams Iowa beat were only "above average" but not "very good", then what "great" teams did Texas beat?

The reason Johnson hasn't won a bowl game is because he has gone up against two fantastic defenses. Why is it that Navy won their bowl game?

Well, I'm not sure what Al was trying to say, but over the last 5 years, you're looking at Texas beating USC for a national title, the Big Ten champion Ohio State, and Oklahoma.

Iowa's has had some impressive wins against Penn State and the like, but nothing like what Texas beat.

Do you believe Iowa is on equal ground with Texas?

Also, care to weigh in on the original post at all? Records of each time if they swapped schedules?

**M3MEPLEASE** · 08-09-2010, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by azn4cy

Well, I'm not sure what Al was trying to say, but over the last 5 years, you're looking at Texas beating USC for a national title, the Big Ten champion Ohio State, and Oklahoma.

Iowa's has had some impressive wins against Penn State and the like, but nothing like what Texas beat.

Do you believe Iowa is on equal ground with Texas?

Also, care to weigh in on the original post at all? Records of each time if they swapped schedules?

If you're referring to the last 5 years, then no obviously Iowa isn't on the same level. However, I do think Iowa could have competed last season with Texas and I definitely think they would be able to beat them this season.

I think Iowa would go 10-2 with ISU's
Iowa State 5-6 or 6-6.

**M3MEPLEASE** · 08-09-2010, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by cyrocksmypants

Yeah, you're right that Iowa team did lose to a Texas team that was completely not motivated to play in such a low-tier game for them.

Always love when people throw the non-motivated excuse out there. Probably one of the worst excuses for teams losing or playing poorly in bowl games.

**cyclonenate** · 08-09-2010, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by Haverhill

This question was brought up on Soundoff. If Iowa State and Iowa swap schedules, how do they do?

Iowa w

Northern Illinois
(Cyhawk Game)
Kansas State @ Arrowhead
Northern Iowa
Texas Tech
Utah
@Oklahoma
@Texas
Kansas
Nebraska
@Colorado
Missouri

Iowa

Eastern Illinois
(Cyhawk Game)
@Arizona
Ball State
Penn State
@Michigan
Wisconsin
Michigan State
@Indiana
@Northwestern
Ohio State
@Minnesota

Now swap schedules.

With swapped schedules...
Iowa State

Eastern Illinois w
(Cyhawk Game) L
@Arizona L, close though. probably a toss up
Ball State W
Penn State L
@Michigan L
Wisconsin L
Michigan State W
@Indiana W
@Northwestern W, toss up as well
Ohio State L
@Minnesota W
6-6
Iowa

Northern Illinois W
(Cyhawk Game) W
Kansas State @ Arrowhead W
Northern Iowa W
Texas Tech W
Utah L
@Oklahoma L
@Texas L
Kansas W
Nebraska W
@Colorado L, just see a surprise loss.
Missouri W
8-4