Iowa State Vs. Iowa

[kingcy]

Also, for the record, I'd like give Eastern Illinois props for how hard they played. They're certainly not in the same caliber as Northern Illinois ... however, they really did play like a well coached team. They fought hard and they didn't give up. They were WAY overmatched, but they gave Iowa their best punch.

I really wouldn't be surprised if EIU ends up contending again to win their conference. Of course, in all honesty, the Ohio Valley Conference is much weaker in my estimation than UNI's conference.

Iowa State benefitted a lot more by playing a higher quality initial foe. I expect that the immediate beneficiary of that is the ISU D. The ISU O also benefitted from generated some quality tape to learn from ... however, the flip side of that is that they may not have gotten to experiment enough to address particular shortcomings.

Dont you think ISU is going to play hard? Since CPR has taken over ISU has been a physical team, much more physical than EI was. The one think ISU got out of their game that Iowa didnt was go to plays in the heat of the battle. There were also issues that need to be addressed. From what I say of the Iowa game they have very little known issues, but some of those will come out vs ISU. ISU forcing Iowa into mistakes and playing smarter than Iowa is going to be a key to the game. The only real big edge Iowa has is their Dline. Yes they are a better team on paper all over the field but a good game plan can overcome some, if not most of that. The ISU D has came a long way since the last ISU-Iowa game, they have been forcing turnovers and that doesnt fair good with Stansiss as your QB. If ISU can get pressure on him it could keep ISU in this game.

[Krug]

Dont you think ISU is going to play hard? Since CPR has taken over ISU has been a physical team, much more physical than EI was. The one think ISU got out of their game that Iowa didnt was go to plays in the heat of the battle. There were also issues that need to be addressed. From what I say of the Iowa game they have very little known issues, but some of those will come out vs ISU. ISU forcing Iowa into mistakes and playing smarter than Iowa is going to be a key to the game. The only real big edge Iowa has is their Dline. Yes they are a better team on paper all over the field but a good game plan can overcome some, if not most of that. The ISU D has came a long way since the last ISU-Iowa game, they have been forcing turnovers and that doesnt fair good with Stansiss as your QB. If ISU can get pressure on him it could keep ISU in this game.

Iowa has seen a game or two in the heat of battle. I keep reading that its going to be so easy to force stanzi into mistakes and stanzi is not a good QB. I guess being 19-4 and know as one of the most clutch QB's in the nation means your easy to rattle.

[kingcy]

Iowa has seen a game or two in the heat of battle. I keep reading that its going to be so easy to force stanzi into mistakes and stanzi is not a good QB. I guess being 19-4 and know as one of the most clutch QB's in the nation means your easy to rattle.

They have been in the heat of battle this season? A 20 some point win is the heat of battle? How many pick 6s did Stanzi throw last year? How many INTs? Yes the guy wins but he does make mistakes, there is no way you can deny that.

[NotEss]

I love how Stanzi is all of a sudden some true freshman type that you can rattle easily.

Have any of you even watched Stanzi play? Most, if not all of his pick six's were not under pressure, they were just dumb throws he made on his own, especially on out routes. He didn't have defenders blitzing him or in his face.

Every time he does face pressure, he plays bigger than ever. This is a guy who has played against multiple Top 5 teams on ABC in prime time. He has played in the Orange Bowl, Outback Bowl, won games in the last two minutes when down, and come back from horrible mistakes.

All of a sudden you think you are going to rattle him? The guy is a battle tested Senior with a record of 19-4 as a starter. LOL.

[NotEss]

Also, by the end of this year, Stanzi will likely have more wins in his career than your Cyclone teams had from 2004-2009 COMBINED.

[homerHAWKeye777]

Dont you think ISU is going to play hard? Since CPR has taken over ISU has been a physical team, much more physical than EI was. The one think ISU got out of their game that Iowa didnt was go to plays in the heat of the battle. There were also issues that need to be addressed. From what I say of the Iowa game they have very little known issues, but some of those will come out vs ISU. ISU forcing Iowa into mistakes and playing smarter than Iowa is going to be a key to the game. The only real big edge Iowa has is their Dline. Yes they are a better team on paper all over the field but a good game plan can overcome some, if not most of that. The ISU D has came a long way since the last ISU-Iowa game, they have been forcing turnovers and that doesnt fair good with Stansiss as your QB. If ISU can get pressure on him it could keep ISU in this game.

Without a doubt, I expect ISU to fight/play hard. Furthermore, just as you indicated, I highlighted the fact that ISU faced a stiffer initial challenge ... that certainly works to ISU's benefit.

However, fortunately for Iowa fans, Iowa returns A LOT of players who played in games last year. Thus, it's not like the Hawk players aren't a battle tested group. The bigger issue is the ability of a squad to knock off rust, get back up to game speed, and be able to learn from their errors from game one. I initially worried that the EIU game would be even more of a laugher. Fortunately, I think that EIU ended up giving Iowa a great test. I think that the Hawks ended up generating a good amount of film that they'll be able to improve upon.

Also, another thing I REALLY like is that ISU played really solidly in their opener. Iowa really seems to have a bad track record of underestimating the Cyclones when the 'Clones play poorly in their opener. I think that part of it has to deal with the fact that the 'Clone squad that they see in film is A LOT different than the 'Clone squad that they end up facing in the game. Fortunately for BOTH Hawk and Cyclone fans, the ISU squad gave the Hawks plenty of game-film to be concerned about.

I expect that the Hawkeyes will enter the ISU game with a great focus and not underestimate the Cyclones. And, as a result, we're going to see BOTH squads playing at a high level ... and they'll duke it out to the finish. Let the best squad prevail!

[jahfg]

Also, by the end of this year, Stanzi will likely have more wins in his career than your Cyclone teams had from 2004-2009 COMBINED.

And he has Norm Parker to thank for that.

[simply1]

And he has Norm Parker to thank for that.

Just for that, he's going to call up coach fairentz and tell him that Stanzi's going 1 on 11 this Saturday. That'll put you and your clone teams in your proper place!

[dmclone]

Also, by the end of this year, Stanzi will likely have more wins in his career than your Cyclone teams had from 2004-2009 COMBINED.

How is this relevant? Is Stanzi a team?

In addition, you're assuming that Stanzi is going undefeated this year. Good luck with that.

[burky247]

How is this relevant? Is Stanzi a team?

In addition, you're assuming that Stanzi is going undefeated this year. Good luck with that.

Of course it was more than just Stanzi winning those games. And yes, we have our defense to thank for a lot of the wins during that 19-4 stretch. Still, QB's are judged by wins and losses probably more than any other stat. I keep hearing from Clones that Iowa has won despite Stanzi, not because of him. If it was as simple as saying Iowa's defense should get all the credit during that stretch, why didn't we see similar results during Christensen's time at QB. He made less mistakes than Stanzi did after all.

One reason is because Stanzi led the Big Ten in big plays last year(plays over 30 yards). Yes, he has been prone to mistakes as well. But the best thing about Stanzi is he isn't affected by those mistakes. Which is why he had the best stats in Big Ten in the 4th quarter last year. Winners deliver in clutch time.

[jdoggivjc]

This thread cracks me up - with both fanbases. ISU beats a bowl-qualifying, decent MAC team comfortably (and probably by more than we did), and Iowa stomped a somewhat mediocre EIU team, and we honestly think there's enough here to be making sane judgments? The two teams we played are hardly of an equal caliber, and both teams hardly opened up their playbooks in order to beat their opponents.

Using last season's result is pretty laughable as well - ISU is a different team this year. ISU's players are now a full year into CPR's system, which means they should be a lot more confident in their roles and abilities. Overall, if you look at the games over the last decade, last year's game was an absolute statistical outlier.

I'm not exactly confident in ISU's ability to win on Saturday, but it's certainly not going to be the one-sided bloodbath that it was last year, at least as long as Arnaud doesn't throw the ball to wide-open safeties this year.

[NotEss]

This thread cracks me up - with both fanbases. ISU beats a bowl-qualifying, decent MAC team comfortably (and probably by more than we did), and Iowa stomped a somewhat mediocre EIU team, and we honestly think there's enough here to be making sane judgments? The two teams we played are hardly of an equal caliber, and both teams hardly opened up their playbooks in order to beat their opponents.

Using last season's result is pretty laughable as well - ISU is a different team this year. ISU's players are now a full year into CPR's system, which means they should be a lot more confident in their roles and abilities. Overall, if you look at the games over the last decade, last year's game was an absolute statistical outlier.

I'm not exactly confident in ISU's ability to win on Saturday, but it's certainly not going to be the one-sided bloodbath that it was last year, at least as long as Arnaud doesn't throw the ball to wide-open safeties this year.

Statistical outlier? I love how you say don't look at last season's result because they are a different team, but then cite years of statistics to identify an outlier.

Guess what? It wasn't an outlier, Iowa was just that much better and the respective results and records proved it. Iowa State had an "epic" 7-6 season with an Insight bowl win over an unranked 6-6 Minnesota team and Iowa had a 11-2 season with a BCS Orange Bowl win over #9 Georgia Tech.

Iowa returns a vast majority of it's starters from that team, is another year experienced and gets it's best running back this season.

[jdoggivjc]

Statistical outlier? I love how you say don't look at last season's result because they are a different team, but then cite years of statistics to identify an outlier.

Guess what? It wasn't an outlier, Iowa was just that much better and the respective results and records proved it. Iowa State had an "epic" 7-6 season with an Insight bowl win over an unranked 6-6 Minnesota team and Iowa had a 11-2 season with a BCS Orange Bowl win over #9 Georgia Tech.

Iowa returns a vast majority of it's starters from that team, is another year experienced and gets it's best running back this season.

35-3
17-5
15-13
27-17
23-3
17-10
40-21
36-31

Leave it to a Tavern Hok to not know what a statistical outlier is...

[Tornado man]

Iowa returns a vast majority of its starters from that team, is another year experienced and gets its best running back this season.

Fixed it for you. "It's" is only used as a contraction for it is or it has.
Please, Iowa trolls, use correct grammar and spelling if you're going to come on here!

[kingcy]

I listened to about 45 mins of the Hawkeye Koolaid/Cry show after the Iowa game on Sat. J and J were bragging on Iowa like always, but you could tell they were not talking there normal smack ISU's way after the game. It is all most like they are a bit worried about this game.