Where are all the Turner Gill groupies?

**SouthJerseyCy** · 09-06-2010, 04:02 PM

I certainly hope you don't judge Hoiberg by the same criteria.

**GeneralHouston** · 09-06-2010, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by azn4cy

If one game was all you needed to determine a coach's future success... we'd have offered Chizik a 10 year, 30 million dollar extension after the 15-13 win over Iowa.

Not true. After one game he would have been fired after losing to Kent State.

KU is in for some rough times with Gill imo. He was the third coach after Buffalo's transition...it is likely he would appear to be the best with out actually being a good coach. I find it somewhat telling that NU did not even consider him, yet went with coordinator with a quick temper. The hiring of Long certainly does not inspire confidence (even if it was encouraged by the AD).

**Sloup** · 09-06-2010, 04:10 PM

I find the idea of moving Opurum to Linebacker suspect at best.

**Three4Cy** · 09-06-2010, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by GeneralHouston

Not true. After one game he would have been fired after losing to Kent State.

KU is in for some rough times with Gill imo. He was the third coach after Buffalo's transition...it is likely he would appear to be the best with out actually being a good coach. I find it somewhat telling that NU did not even consider him, yet went with coordinator with a quick temper. The hiring of Long certainly does not inspire confidence (even if it was encouraged by the AD).

The guy was 20-30 at Buffalo with one winning season (8-6), that is why Nebby said "NO WAY!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Gill

**everyyard** · 09-06-2010, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by copenhagen

Oh we just had to get him and his mediocre results at Buffalo or the world would end, then people were 'unimpressed' with the Rhoads hire. Lol. I know which one i prefer.

Seriously? The guy coaches his first game and you are already calling out the people that think he will be a good coach? What if he goes on to win the north this year or next? I was not one calling for his hire, but Jesus man...IT WAS ONE GAME!!!

**ISUFan22** · 09-06-2010, 04:50 PM

One game does not make/break a coach. But trying to talk sense into copenhagen would be like trying to get Willie Nelson to stop doing weed.

**copenhagen** · 09-06-2010, 04:51 PM

Hey they may beat ISU this year. I doubt it, but you never know. I was on here reading some threads and it popped in my head all the hysteria about Gill and the contrast to that with the chilly reception the Rhoads hire brought. Just starting some discussion and good natured debate and commentary.

**Tornado man** · 09-06-2010, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by copenhagen

Hey they may beat ISU this year. I doubt it, but you never know. I was on here reading some threads and it popped in my head all the hysteria about Gill and the contrast to that with the chilly reception the Rhoads hire brought. Just starting some discussion and good natured debate and commentary.

I will say that his hiring of Chuck Long as OC was curious at best. Stoops stripped Long of all play-calling responsibilities while at OU: then he got the head job at San Diego State and we all know how that turned out.

**Erik4Cy** · 09-06-2010, 05:54 PM

Turner Gill is still a fine coach imo, one game doesn't change that. I'm more than happy with Paul Rhoads and he sold me and I want him for a LONG time, but Turner Gill just went into a bad situation, that KU team is BAD. They are a very untalented team.

**RedBlooded** · 09-06-2010, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Cyched

I am SO PROUD that Jamie made the right decision

Well he made the wrong decision when he hired Gene instead of ND coach Kelly.

**Jarrods79** · 09-06-2010, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by RedBlooded

Well he made the wrong decision when he hired Gene instead of ND coach Kelly.

I strongly disagree with that...Kelly is one of the most overrated coaches heading up a big time program right now. In 2006, his name would not have made a splash, and there is no way to really say what kind of recruits he would have pulled in (that is still to be determined at his coaching stop in Cincy).

**ISUAlum2002** · 09-06-2010, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by Sloup

I find the idea of moving Opurum to Linebacker suspect at best.

So do a lot of KU fans, based on what I have seen on their messageboards.

I will refrain judgment on Gill, as we all knew that KU was losing a LOT of talent from last year's team. On top of that, they were going through a coaching regime change. A recipe for a rough transition year. We knew it, but the prognosticators for some reason didn't.

That being said, I will not feel sorry for them when they get rocked in a few games this year. I'm really hoping we have the ability to pour it on them this year. If we do have that ability, I really hope Rhoads doesn't let off the gas, just like they didn't let off when they were drilling us 45-7 in 2007. Especially after Gill immediately removed himself from consideration for our open head coaching job partly because he did not want to coach against kNebraska every year. Then he heads off to KU, where he would have had to coach against kNebraska every year had the realignment not occurred.

**ISUAlum2002** · 09-06-2010, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Jarrods79

I strongly disagree with that...Kelly is one of the most overrated coaches heading up a big time program right now.

Could not disagree more. Kelly will (unfortunately) have ND back to respectability within two years. He is an offensive genius.

**ripvdub** · 09-06-2010, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by ISUAlum2002

Could not disagree more. Kelly will (unfortunately) have ND back to respectability within two years. He is an offensive genius.

I agree with you, but thats also what they said about Weis. Good thing Kelly is one smart/tough SOB, I think Weis was just totally lost and had no idea what to do in the college game.

**ISUAlum2002** · 09-06-2010, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by ripvdub

I agree with you, but thats also what they said about Weis. Good thing Kelly is one smart/tough SOB, I think Weis was just totally lost and had no idea what to do in the college game.

Weis had absolutely no college head coaching experience. Like you said, he was lost and couldn't connect with college players. Though Kelly hasn't been at a big time program, he has shown that he can win at programs that haven't had long winning traditions.