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Old 05-30-2006, 02:26 PM   #1
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Curtis Stinson and Will Blalock are among the all-time leaders statistically at ISU. In per-game statistics, we've already seen how effective they have been from game to game. The career numbers also show how effective they were over their careers.

Will had 1078 points, putting him at #20 in points scored. He also had 464 assists and 177 steals. Those are good for fourth in assists and he is tied for sixth in steals. He was only 201 assists away from the all-time record, and only 34 steals away from the record.

Curtis had 1651 points scored, putting him right in the top ten at #10. He was #5 in assists with 448, and #4 in steals with 200. He was only 11 steals away from the record.

Moreover, Curtis is only one of four Cyclones in the top ten in scoring, assists, and steals. The other three are Fred Hoiberg, Justus Thigpen, and Julius Michalik.

Their careers will undoubtedly be remembered with "what if?" scenarios, because they left a year early. They easily would have been number one and two in steals, Blalock could have challenged Hornacek for the record in assists, and Stinson could have found himself among the top two or three in many statistical categories.

No one knows what kind of effect they could have had on the Cyclones next season. One thing is certain though: They have left lasting effects on the ISU record books and cemented their place among some of the great Cyclones to pass through Ames.


NOTE: If there is some idea that someone would want me to flesh out in a story, go ahead and PM me. I will certainly pour through the stats trying to prove or disprove any theories or anything of that nature. I'm always looking for material to cover for the front page.
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Old 05-30-2006, 02:54 PM   #2
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I guess I didn't realize how high up in the record books they were until you reported it. I do agree that their career will be marked "what if". I just wonder how they would have done with a coach that demanded discipline like the coach that recruited them, Eustachy, or the new coach McDermott. I feel their early departure will lead some people to have a negative attitude towards them in the future when they are talked about, which is too bad considering they were one of the best guard tandems ever to play here statistics wise. How does their winning percentage rank with some other guard tandems we have had here in the past?

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Old 05-30-2006, 03:11 PM   #3
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jay moe @ May 30 2006, 06:54 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
How does their winning percentage rank with some other guard tandems we have had here in the past?
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You see, that is an excellent question. I don't really know quite yet. I also wonder how they rank statistically with other guard tandems, but it's hard to find those year to year statistics for individuals.

That is another weird thing about Will and Curtis. It's not very often in our history where we have two players we really consider to be tandems. Will and Curtis came in as freshman and were expected to contribute greatly as freshman. They will always be linked because of this and because it's not often that happens.

I would imagine that the winning percentages of the Tinsley-Nurse or Tinsley-whoever will be much better. If you matched up the career numbers from players like Jacy Holloway and Hoiberg, you would see some impressive numbers. But they only played together two years.

Stinson and Blalock are a real tandem. The came in together, played together from the start, and even lived together. I don't know if you can think about a PG and a SG tandem the same way.
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Old 05-30-2006, 04:56 PM   #4
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Wow, i'm surprised to see how many assist stinson had. He was close to Blalock.

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Old 06-09-2006, 09:32 AM   #5
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Orlando Pre Draft Reports:



http://news.google.com/news?q=Orlando+pre+...i=news&ct=title



http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basket...11_sonx07.html

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bryceman @ Jun 9 2006, 08:32 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'> Orlando Pre Draft Reports:



http://news.google.com/news?q=Orlando+pre+...i=news&ct=title



http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basket...11_sonx07.html [/b][/quote]



Looks like Will was rated five at the pack of 60. Looks like Will will workout with Cleveland Cavaliers 20 Jun. Maybe he will be drafted on Lebron James team as a point guard?

Team Four breakdown at Orlando Pre Draft:

http://www.draftexpress.com/dedaily.php?p=667





Here are some Cyclone Will quotes: <span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%">

</span><u><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#0000ff">http://en.thinkexist.com/quotes/will_blalock/</u></span></span>



Will Blaylock of Baylor (versus our Will Blalock) sighting: <span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%">

</span><u><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#0000ff">http://scoreboards.aol.com/football/ncaaf/player/20254/player.aspx</u></span></span>



Cutis wikipedia listing:

<span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%">[/size]<u>[size="2"]<span style="color:#0000ff">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Stinson</u></span></span>

EIU is the other Okoboji University for serious students and home of Captain Kirk who pilots the Enterprise on its Trek through the Universe for finding his next great job. Captain, beware of your Superbowl.
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Old 06-12-2006, 11:29 AM   #7
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You know, it sounded like everybody was really impressed with Will's defense and playmaking ability. The Cavs could really use a true point guard, and it would be absoutely spectacular to have him play with LeBron. I would instantly be a gigantic Cavs fan. (I've really soured on the Pacers lately).

Thanks for the links Bryceman, and hey, nice name.
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Old 06-12-2006, 11:47 AM   #8
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Curtis quotations: http://en.thinkexist.com/quotes/Curtis_Stinson/



Remember after Ohio State game, "The Big 12 is war. I think we're on the right track. We feel like we're in pretty good shape going into the conference."









Wayne Morgan quotes: http://en.thinkexist.com/quotes/Wayne_Morgan/





"In terms of his understanding of basketball, Curtis is a genius. He has the same ability Magic Johnson and Larry Bird had to see two, three plays ahead and where the ball needs to go. He sees all the possibilities right away that other kids might not see."



"I think it goes without saying, it was very nice to win a home game."



Damon A on Shawn Taggart classic assist quote: http://en.thinkexist.com/search/searchquot...shawn+taggart&q=





Also, anyone can submit a new quote at the website. Free registration.

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